Streamer to kill the big boys for under $250

[Blizzard]

Anyone who want's a full blown optically isolated, ultra low noise power supplied super system. Here's all the items required. I thought I'd compile it all together in 1 easy to navigate post:



With the $75 for the turnkey OS/Software download. Grand total of $786.19.

I would love to put this system up against a top of the line Aurender using a NAS for server. I don't think it would have a chance.

 

[Folsom]

The Teddy is a nice PSU. It could use some upgrades in a few places, but it should do wonders over the stock PSU. It might prove WELL worth it to add a Schurter DENO to it if the circuit is connected to safety ground at all.

 

[Blizzard]

The Teddy is a nice PSU. It could use some upgrades in a few places, but it should do wonders over the stock PSU. It might prove WELL worth it to add a Schurter DENO to it if the circuit is connected to safety ground at all.

If you know of any alternatives, please feel free to share. A step up from the Teddy would likely be this unit from MOJO:





http://www.mojo-audio.com/watt-v1-0-power-supply/

 

[chopchopbin]

How about Hd-plex? http://www.hd-plex.com/HDPLEX-Fanless-Linear-Power-Supply-for-PC-Audio-and-CE-device.html

It has 4 outputs: 19v/ 12v/ 5v/ variable 5-12v.

Mike, how do I select songs remotely from my office's server with HQplayer while I am listening with the streamer in my music room?
Is there a difference in SQ if I run a long fiber optic cable from the server's location to the music room vs using ethernet/network connection?

Thanks for assistance.

If you know of any alternatives, please feel free to share. A step up from the Teddy would likely be this unit from MOJO:


http://www.mojo-audio.com/watt-v1-0-power-supply/

 

[chopchopbin]

I forgot to mention the router is next to my server.

Thanks.

 

[Blizzard]

How about Hd-plex? http://www.hd-plex.com/HDPLEX-Fanless-Linear-Power-Supply-for-PC-Audio-and-CE-device.html

It has 4 outputs: 19v/ 12v/ 5v/ variable 5-12v.

Mike, how do I select songs remotely from my office's server with HQplayer while I am listening with the streamer in my music room?
Is there a difference in SQ if I run a long fiber optic cable from the server's location to the music room vs using ethernet/network connection?

Thanks for assistance.

That looks like a great power supply for this application. Thanks for sharing!

The ROON integration will be great to answer the other question as you will control with the ROON mobile app. But if just using HQplayer for now until the integration is complete, you can install teamviewer on server and mobile device, or laptop to mirror the server and control from listening position.

https://www.teamviewer.com/en/index...a_fAboi5ZBccw0kPURlqSIc1vIjpHnEUkhRoCkMPw_wcB

Another way is to use Linux on the server and run HQplayer embedded. Then you can use bubbleUPnP or Rygel to control the GUI. This is only recommended for more advanced users. It is the best way, however the ROON integration will be the best by far once complete.

As long as the fiber is under 10km (6.3 miles) long, there will be no loss of quality. This is one of the awesome things about fiber.

 

[Folsom]

The mojo doesn't look "better"; the price is more and there's no evidence of the great performance. It uses Y caps in the IEC filter that can pollute your stereo some.

The reason I mentioned the Schurter is it provides isolation from safety ground between equipment; which comes potentially into play once you switch back to copper wire.

The hd-plex could be good, but Teddy Pardo shares proof of it's very good noise characteristics. The whole DIYaudio community can verify it to because it and a few others were all tested together over there.

 

[Blizzard]

The mojo doesn't look "better"; the price is more and there's no evidence of the great performance. It uses Y caps in the IEC filter that can pollute your stereo some.

The reason I mentioned the Schurter is it provides isolation from safety ground between equipment; which comes potentially into play once you switch back to copper wire.

The hd-plex could be good, but Teddy Pardo shares proof of it's very good noise characteristics. The whole DIYaudio community can verify it to because it and a few others were all tested together over there.

You're right, It may not be better. I just heard the Belleson regulators it uses are better.

I'm thinking the HDplex is a great choice. But almost the same price using the Teddy for the streamer and ifi ipower for the FMC. And likely the Teddy is better than the HDplex, but only has a single output.

The Schurter DENO you're talking about looks a lot like the unit inside the TP-Link FMC:

 

[Folsom]

It's a choke, but they serve entirely different purposes. The one in the unit surely has two wires, the DENO has one.

 

[Blizzard]

It's a choke, but they serve entirely different purposes. The one in the unit surely has two wires, the DENO has one.

Can you please share the Schurter DENO you're talking about then? When I search for it, this is what I find:

http://www.schurter.com/Components/EMC-Products/Suppression-Chokes/DENO

 

[Folsom]

That's the correct one, sorry my mistake the one on the board has 1 wire.

There's still no indication that it serves any similar purpose. In fact it can't because there's 2 connectors on the power input. The ground from the FMC, from it's cable going back to the PSU, can connect to the safety ground inside of the PSU (if it does, I don't have a schematic but this is a 50/50). It's that connection to safety earth that can make it's way to any other device with safety earth connected to circuit; instead of being solely through the cable you're using between the pieces. The DENO breaks that connection without disabling safety earth as a means of draining after the circuit breaker flips.

 

[Blizzard]

That's the correct one, sorry my mistake the one on the board has 1 wire.

There's still no indication that it serves any similar purpose. In fact it can't because there's 2 connectors on the power input. The ground from the FMC, from it's cable going back to the PSU, can connect to the safety ground inside of the PSU (if it does, I don't have a schematic but this is a 50/50). It's that connection to safety earth that can make it's way to any other device with safety earth connected to circuit; instead of being solely through the cable you're using between the pieces. The DENO breaks that connection without disabling safety earth as a means of draining after the circuit breaker flips.

Either way I'm getting better sound with this unit powered by LPS than I'm getting plugging the copper cable into my router or server. For $60 with SFP, worth the money for me. Also allows 10km runs of cable without loss. Cable is dirt cheap as well.

 

[Folsom]

I'm impressed, I didn't know how valuable it would be.

 

[nc42acc]

Mike can the main server be something like an IMac? Will it function just as well running HQPlayer?

 

[Blizzard]

Mike can the main server be something like an IMac? Will it function just as well running HQPlayer?

Yes it can .I'm actually setting up a 4 room system for a guy who's going to use his office I7 Imac as the server for the whole house. Running fibre to each zone. Ipad will run the whole system. Everything will run in the background on the
imac. You would never even know anything is running on it. No need for dedicated servers for this system.

 

[nc42acc]

That is great to hear. Looking at a new iMac for myself as a Christmas present. Sounds like I need to look for a DAC that will work with this system.

 

[Blizzard]

That is great to hear. Looking at a new iMac for myself as a Christmas present. Sounds like I need to look for a DAC that will work with this system.

Excellent. Just get one with the I7 processor. Plenty of power for this. Any DAC will work with the system. But something DSD 256 compatible is best. Even better is if it can bypass the internal processing like with the AK4490 chip, or chipless DSD. If you don't mind a raw PCB board, or can build into a box, I know of something for under $500 that will kill anything on the market for under $5000. Perfect for this system. PM me for details. I'm listening to it as I type.

 

[Blizzard]

Anyone who want's a full blown optically isolated, ultra low noise power supplied super system. Here's all the items required. I thought I'd compile it all together in 1 easy to navigate post:

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With the $75 for the turnkey OS/Software download. Grand total of $786.19.

I would love to put this system up against a top of the line Aurender using a NAS for server. I don't think it would have a chance.

Hey guys,

I just realized I forgot to add the short little Ethernet cables to connect the FMC's to the router/streamer. These look like they will do the trick nicely:

http://www.amazon.com/CablesOnline-...F8&qid=1450648802&sr=8-5&keywords=6"+ethernet



Brings the grand total up to $797.88, with 3 left over Ethernet cables to add additional zones.

 

[lateboomer]

Oh boy.. Aren't we spoiled for choice.

 

[microstrip]

Excellent. Just get one with the I7 processor. Plenty of power for this. Any DAC will work with the system. But something DSD 256 compatible is best. Even better is if it can bypass the internal processing like with the AK4490 chip, or chipless DSD. If you don't mind a raw PCB board, or can build into a box, I know of something for under $500 that will kill anything on the market for under $5000. Perfect for this system. PM me for details. I'm listening to it as I type.

Do you also have something under $5000 that will kill anything on the market for under $50000?