I will Check again with Luk about DoP, but last time he insisted he got DSD256 DoP and was waiting on some ALSA upgrade and firmware to run DSD256 native over Amanero. As soon as I learn something, I will let you know.
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I will Check again with Luk about DoP, but last time he insisted he got DSD256 DoP and was waiting on some ALSA upgrade and firmware to run DSD256 native over Amanero. As soon as I learn something, I will let you know.
Yes I know. But it's a good DAC. Once we have a chipless DSD DAC with Ravenna interface, it may be better. Until then, this is the DAC to beat. I heard some feedback on the GG with HQplayer upsampling to DSD 128. So far he only said it was almost too smooth that details seem to get dull. But that was just 1st impressions. Maybe it will be too much of a good thing with the GG? Anyways, I'm sure playing with the filters the right balance can be found.
That's good. Then I can upgrade my Amanero as well. Not sure what to do with it though. I really just bought it to test. Maybe I'll make some computer speakers with built in DAC and amps.
DOP256 is like PCM 768. Is he really sure? I think it is more like native 256? Does he say it will be just a flush of firmware or require a new USB board?
Even if I buy the explanation re: transparency that you gave in your last reply, here again is another contradiction:
How can your chipless DSD be better than the NADAC, if the latter is fully transparent and thus already perfect?
We will see. I'm not the one who made the claim. However, I haven't heard of anyone who has heard the NADAC and didn't say it was the best they ever heard. My chipless DAC is certainly the best I've ever heard. But I'm not going to reccommened it to Madfloyd because it's a complete integrated system. It would replace everything he has minus the speakers and speaker cables. Could it beat his pass setup? Well I would love to find out
Would that ever send the analog guys out of orbit in utter disbelief
Aah, but your whole claim that digital was superior to analog *), that the NADAC is a fully transparent DAC etc. was precisely based on that claim made by others. So you cannot retreat from it now.
So now you say your chipless DAC is the best you've ever heard, i.e. better than the NADAC. In other words, the NADAC cannot be fully transparent to the source, because this would require perfection.
Why am I pestering you so much about this? Because I have a hard time buying the transparency claim, that's why. And the contradictions in your arguments just fuel the fire under my suspicions.
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Hi Mike and thank you for your efforts on this.
I ordered all the parts on this list, but some won't arrive until early Feb. I plan to use the spare 9V output from my Red Wine Black lightning Battery PS to power the optical receiver nearest the Nuc. I had used this to power the sotm USB in my capsv3 Zuma server, but my Lampy GG does not use the USB power. I assume this should work well?
I already use HQPlayer exclusively, upsampling all to DSD128 or DSD256 natively with asio backend. Will this Linux build pass native DSD128 or DSD256 to the Amenero board? If not is their an asio driver that can be installed to allow such?
Honestly, I'm skeptical that this can improve on my battery powered Zuma sending native DSD, but you make a compelling case, your enthusiasm is infectious, and if not, I have a 2nd system in which to use it in a planned Roon/HQPlayer household once the current bugs are worked out.
On that topic, what are your thoughts about running Roon server on my office i7, 3.6GHz powerhouse with 32GB, sending to HQPlayer on my battery powered, i7 3GHz quad core Zuma with 16GB residing in my listening room, and then to NAA on the Nuc?
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Jordan
Well I guess all you can do is try out some of the things I claim, or close your mind off to it and pretend you never heard it. So far I haven't had anyone dissatisfied who has followed my advice so far. Audio to me isn't about religion, it's more about real world results.
Hi Jordan,
No problem. Unfortunately you must have 12-24V to power the NUC. As far as native DSD 256 with the Amanero, as Wisnon said a couple post back, there's a new firmware update coming shortly that will allow native DSD 256 with Linux for the Amanero. Till then you are limited to DoP up to DSD 128.
I don't see any reason why you wouldn't just run HQplayer on the same machine as the roon server. I doubt you would see any sonic benefit by adding the extra PC into the mix. But you could run the NAA daemon on the Zuma and compare for sound with this. But my experience has been that the DAC shouldn't be connected to the high powered computer. One of the big advantages of this system is the low noise foot print. Especially when powered by LPS. You can have 1 powerful central server, and have 100 of these NUC's connected to it if you want. Choose your zone on the roon ipad app.
Yes, I know all this, but still got that answer. i will check again when I can and let ya know.
He said DoP 256 and he was waiting on native 256 soon. I recall FW update, not sure aboutr hardware changes (I doubt that, but will get a definitive answer if I can).
LoLWe will see. I'm not the one who made the claim. However, I haven't heard of anyone who has heard the NADAC and didn't say it was the best they ever heard. My chipless DAC is certainly the best I've ever heard. But I'm not going to reccommened it to Madfloyd because it's a complete integrated system. It would replace everything he has minus the speakers and speaker cables. Could it beat his pass setup? Well I would love to find out
Would that ever send the analog guys out of orbit in utter disbelief
You need to get out more.
There is NO audio gear that is totally transparent. 95% true fidelity is already astronomical.
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I am now more than I have ever been a firm believer in ROI. I simply hate to spend big bucks when a little fun research and education can save me some dough. someone here I believe n42acc.. (Please come up with a easier to remember screen name
) use an Agilent Power supply .. They can be easily found on eBay for good prices... Linear PS with great specs and built to be stable. Many are Laboratory grade... Just a thought .. Acquiring one right this moment on eBay...
I could use the main regulated 12V power from the Black Lightning Power supply for the NUC if I didn't use it for the Zuma and the 9V output for the optical box on the NUC side.
Good to here that there may be a native 256 Linux solution in the works for the Amenero!
Just call me Marty, but I will go by just about anything. I think you have me confused with another member in regards to the linear power supply.
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I am now more than I have ever been a firm believer in ROI. I simply hate to spend big bucks when a little fun research and education can save me some dough. someone here I believe n42acc.. (Please come up with a easier to remember screen name
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I am now more than I have ever been a firm believer in ROI. I simply hate to spend big bucks when a little fun research and education can save me some dough. someone here I believe n42acc.. (Please come up with a easier to remember screen name
That was cjf: http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...-2ch-Channel-Rig-amp-Room&p=366103#post366103
On shopping for these be mindful of them having a fan or not. And of course the perils of used gear
. On the plus side, they are built to very high standards.I am not closing off my mind. Obviously you have not paid much attention, or you must have missed that I even suggested to Madfloyd to try out the NADAC; I am curious myself how it would stack up against his superb analog rig:
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showt...-for-under-250&p=365814&viewfull=1#post365814
But the fact is, I have blown a hole into your transparency claims by exposing the contradictions in your argumentation.
On the contrary, you argue from dogmatic 'technical' principle that, for example, your DAC configuration or the NADAC must be better than the dCS Vivaldi without having heard the real world result, and that they must be better than SOTA analog without having heard the real world result.
