Yes, the AES/BEU card is available for DAC's that sing with AES/BEU
There was an Audiophile who did a comparison between AES/BEU and USB on his DAC, and AES/BEU was more to his sonic preferences
Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
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There was an Audiophile who did a comparison between AES/BEU and USB on his DAC, and AES/BEU was more to his sonic preferences
TAS is in beta which is very support intensive, we are planning to port the release version to the EVO even though there are very few left in the field.
That’s awesome , look forward to getting upgraded soon .. have seen some great reviews of TAS on this forum … super excited . Thanks
Hi Emile/Edward
Despite my efforts, I have yet to hear streaming (Tidal or Quobuz played back through Roon or J River) that in my opinion, is comparable overall to wav file playback through an optimized hardware/software solution. I have tried several servers over the last few years, none of which elevates streaming to the level of wav file playback. I have even tried basic network isolation schemes (switch, fibre, usb) to improve the streaming, but still remain unimpressed.
Can you share your current thoughts as to the relative performance through the Extreme/TAS between a streaming source like Quobuz or Tidal vs optimized redbook and hi res wav file playback?
Despite my efforts, I have yet to hear streaming (Tidal or Quobuz played back through Roon or J River) that in my opinion, is comparable overall to wav file playback through an optimized hardware/software solution. I have tried several servers over the last few years, none of which elevates streaming to the level of wav file playback. I have even tried basic network isolation schemes (switch, fibre, usb) to improve the streaming, but still remain unimpressed.
Can you share your current thoughts as to the relative performance through the Extreme/TAS between a streaming source like Quobuz or Tidal vs optimized redbook and hi res wav file playback?
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The large negative Delta between stored files and streaming has bugged us for more than 4 years. We have been chipping away at the problem, and finally cracked the nut in November last year. Take a look at the post by ray-dude #5,231 on page linked below
Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
That wasn't quite my point...more that the record collection takes a major step forward w the TAS. Would the vinylistas like Mike and Steve who know their LP pressings well, and love TAS, claim that TAS is somewhat like superior first pressings versus Roon mediocre repressings?
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There is still a small SQ Delta, but for many, Emile and myself included its not bothersome
Thanks EdwardThe large negative Delta between stored files and streaming has bugged us for more than 4 years. We have been chipping away at the problem, and finally cracked the nut in November last year. Take a look at the post by ray-dude #5,231 on page linked below
Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
That wasn't quite my point...more that the record collection takes a major step forward w the TAS. Would the vinylistas like Mike and Steve who know their LP pressings well, and love TAS, claim that TAS is somewhat like superior first pressings versus Roon mediocre repressings?
There is still a small SQ Delta, but for many, Emile and myself included its not bothersome
Can you elaborate on the methodology that 'cracked the nut'?
Ouch - so local WAV playback still has the upper hand?The large negative Delta between stored files and streaming has bugged us for more than 4 years. We have been chipping away at the problem, and finally cracked the nut in November last year. Take a look at the post by ray-dude #5,231 on page linked below
Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
That wasn't quite my point...more that the record collection takes a major step forward w the TAS. Would the vinylistas like Mike and Steve who know their LP pressings well, and love TAS, claim that TAS is somewhat like superior first pressings versus Roon mediocre repressings?
There is still a small SQ Delta, but for many, Emile and myself included its not bothersome
I have my Extreme on optical network with low power SFP module, on a dedicated subnet (it doesn't see broadcast traffic from elsewhere in my house). That made a huge difference. With that, streaming vs local content is virtually identical, which is amazing.
Comes down to the original recording and the actual file origin being played vs the file/processing of the streamed file being played in my set up. Big upticks in SQ were accompanied with the arrivals of TAS, Taiko usb driver, TAIKO USB CARD. This combination even made Roon sound much better.
I am running the two each JCAT switches with two each JCAT LPSs and all JCAT Gold Sig cables, which btw REALLY took up the performance of the Aurender N20 which is also fed with this network set up.
With the Extreme I can play 20 tracks from Qobuz that sound better than a WAV file and the opposite playing files vs streaming. All depends on the original recording.
I only have a few TB of files, but I can't remember the last time I played a file. I use Qobuz/Tidal 100% of the time as it sounds so good, pretty much on anything I pull up, that I could care less anymore about making comparisons between streaming and files. I stopped doing that about a year ago once TAS landed. YMMV.
Notice that there is not as much back and forth since on this thread since TAS/usb driver/usb card arrived. Everyone is just listening and enjoying music!
I am running the two each JCAT switches with two each JCAT LPSs and all JCAT Gold Sig cables, which btw REALLY took up the performance of the Aurender N20 which is also fed with this network set up.
With the Extreme I can play 20 tracks from Qobuz that sound better than a WAV file and the opposite playing files vs streaming. All depends on the original recording.
I only have a few TB of files, but I can't remember the last time I played a file. I use Qobuz/Tidal 100% of the time as it sounds so good, pretty much on anything I pull up, that I could care less anymore about making comparisons between streaming and files. I stopped doing that about a year ago once TAS landed. YMMV.
Notice that there is not as much back and forth since on this thread since TAS/usb driver/usb card arrived. Everyone is just listening and enjoying music!
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Boulder 2120 DAC
A very interesting and great sounding DAC is being added to the Taiko USB Driver compatibility list
A very interesting and great sounding DAC is being added to the Taiko USB Driver compatibility list
Ed @EuroDriver , any estimate as to when we may see fully gapless play in TAS?
If you follow this thread there is an updated list of supported DAC's updated regularly. This was posted a few pages back. Then add the recent Boulder 2120 DAC to the list.
Currently supported:
-Analogue Domain DAC1
-APL DSD-MR
-Aries Cerat
-Aqua Formula xHD V2.0
-B&O Beolab 50
-Berkeley Alpha USB interface
-Bricasti MDxx
-Brinkmann Nyquist
-CH Precision
-DCS Vivaldi
-DCS Vivaldi Up-sampler
-DCS Vivaldi One
-Denafrips Terminator Plus
-EMM Labs DAC 2
-Esoteric Grandioso D1X
-Esoteric K-01X
-Esoteric K-03
-Gustard X26 Pro
-Holo Audio May
-Ideon Absolute
-Lampizator (with jlsounds interface)
-LH Davinci MKII
-MSB Pro USB
-MSB V / Quad
-Nagra HD-X
-Pilium Elektra
-Sennheiser HE-1
-T+A 3100 series
-Thrax Maximinus
-Totaldac
-Trinity 1st gen model
-Trinity Reference
-Vitus
-Weiss DAC-501
-Ypsilon 1000
Pending:
-Singxer SU-6
To have your DAC added contact us at contact@taikoaudio.com or run the Thesycon USB Descriptor Dumper utility downloadable here: https://thesycon.de/eng/usb_descriptordumper.shtml and e-mail us the output (use the save as file option).
Hi Ray,
Clever solution, indeed. Can you please tell us the details of the needed configuration?
Do you configure the subnet in the router/modem of your Internet Service Provider, or in a second router?
Thank You.
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