This is an excellent way to set up power to an audio system. But, there is still a lot of common mode noise on the neutral and ground, as well as noise on the phase wires from the utility feed panel that is in your sub panel. Hence, the Schnerzinger devices seem to be helping.
It would be appreciated if you would refrain from insulting everyone who asks a question by calling them a "Skeptic". Because someone is interested in technical data does not make them a Skeptic. Because someone askes if you have tried just one or the other devices to determine impact does not make them a Skeptic. Good on you. Your wealthy as God and can flaunt it around. Other are not. Others may be enticed by the gains your getting, but have limited funds. I for one am looking for the greatest bang for the money. I'm retired. I don't doubt there is technology that can mitigate noise in the electrical system that does not require a metal enclosure or devices on the power line. Am I like others interested in the technical side. Yes. Am I like others entertaining the idea of possibly getting one device. Sure, maybe. If it can do enough of what I want it to do. Hence I ask questions about what seems to be doing what. I ask if owners of the device could find the time to isolate individual devices to determine the ultimate impact. But I sure as heck am not going to dump $20K or more into 3 devices. I have a wife, medical bill, food, taxes, fuel, utility bills, life entertainment and everything else to pay for. My life didn't put me in a gated community on a golf course. It gave me money for plenty of toys well beyond the vast majority of our population. But not so much I throw it around without a care.
I would hope that any dealer selling these expensive add-ons would offer a trial-to-buy basis, so the audio nut can hear for themselves if it's worth it.
You and others using the Schnerzinger have done a convincing job putting skepticism to the side. I don't doubt your getting good results. I in particular am always interested in improving power. Thats part of why I was looking at battery. But that will do nothing for RF in the air. And it will create some of its own RF and harmonics.
There is one for example https://www.synergisticresearch.com/pc/powercell-sx/
This thread did cause me to look at some of the Synergistic stuff. But every manufacture makes what they make. They are all different. There are a lot of filters out there and they all have their own voice. I would not expect something from synergistic to perform the same. AQ gear is good in its place. I was sort of surprised to hear Steve was using Furman. I consider that junk. At his level I would expect better. I would expect a Gryphon Powerzone or something along that line.
Well I don’t want to go too off-topic here but some friends who compared the Niagara to the Powerzone felt they are at the same level (though everyone has a bit of their own „sound“ or character)
Yes anything with a chip is making noise. But that doesn’t mean, that avoiding more of it in the audio power cirquit doesn’t make sense. Audio servers and DAC’s at least usually have power supplies making less noise than routers, NAS, lamps and other stuff which can easily be placed to the non audio cirquit. All of this is probably better suited for practical experience than theoretical discussions.
I am curious if these type impressions will be long lasting, or fleeting. Do you know what I mean. Some enhancements grab you, but soon you forget about the gain. Others seem to amaze you for an extended period of time.
I think you threw some bad juju at me. I was pretty peeked after eating too much. Drinking wine. Having seconds on desert. You got me!!!!!I can’t win with you Rex. You crap on me earlier for buying expensive devices and then you turn around and crap on me for buying something inexpensive
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving
I agree, in this hobby it seems that the upgrades really never end. I don’t think that PZ and GP are based on the same technology, before getting to that conclusion we probably should know what kind of technology we are talking about and for both of them this isn’t the case at all. We don’t know anything.
If a impact of the devices are to truely shut down hum noise, that is a lifetime recognizable gain. Just saying the music has more air and space, or comes from a more black background is more temporary. Lots or gear does that. I am interested in noise reduction that is associated with hum or radio out a speaker. I don't have radio out the speaker, but I have hum. Both the Blade and the Audion 845. I know a fair amount of people that have hum issues. One that contacted me has isolated it to his digital setup. I am suspect its RF getting into a tube on his Lampizator DAC. He wanted to try a Torus but I said that won't work. You need to block the RF in the air, not in a power line.
