Visit to the Cessaro Zeta System of Audioquattr

I visited audioquattr last week and, after I swore to him that I would not say a word about this amazing new system, I had to have Tinka put duct tape over my mouth because I have been bursting at the seams wanting to tell people what I heard from this system.

From the one-of-a-kind Cessaro Zeta system we all heard in Munich this year, to the Alieno amp (which I heard at Jeroen’s over a year ago), to the Grado Epoch on the absurdly complicated looking but amazing sounding Reed 5T on a brand new TechDAS AF3 Premium sitting on a Stacore platform, to the lengthened dedicated listening room, to the in-the-wall giant subwoofer drivers this is, to my ears, one of the two or three best systems I have ever heard in my life. (Jeroen also has the world’s first client copy of the brand new Alieno line stage preamplifier.)

Now that Jeroen has posted a photo of his stunning system on the AF3 thread I can finally spill the beans. This is such a unique system, with multiple presently one-of-a-kind components, I told Jeroen that, like MikeL’s system, among the systems I have heard personally, I think this is a system of real significance in the world of high-end audio.

After I visited Jeroen I did not write a coherent, comprehensive visit report like I normally do. So my observations on this thread are going to be more stream of consciousness rather than my usual coherence.

I did not even take any photos while I was there because I almost did not trust myself not to post them. I did take a cool video, but I do not know how to upload it here. Update a photo here:

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Steve Williams

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Darn. This is a tough one. Too low to play without a stepup through MM. Too high loading for most MC.

Thank you sir.

Tang
you just don't have any of those issues with the LP1 Tang
 
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It can be done both.
I use it on MC with 47000 Ohm loading. Everything above 20K can work i think.
Below that it sounds slower and rolled off / handbrake on...
It has about 10 dB more output than MSL platinum/ Opus and about 4dB less than a Colibri Master sign 1.1mV, still can easy use it on MC input. Hope this helps.
@Tang. I said it has about 10 dB more output than MSL platinum/ Opus, i thought the steps at my preamp where 1dB.
But actually they are about 0.7dB so that gives about 7dB more output than MSL platinum/ Opus.
I tried different load again but it needs high (20k-100k Ohm) loading.

How high can you set the load with your EMT jpa66 ? I can't find a manual or specs for that.
 

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@Tang. I said it has about 10 dB more output than MSL platinum/ Opus, i thought the steps at my preamp where 1dB.
But actually they are about 0.7dB so that gives about 7dB more output than MSL platinum/ Opus.
I tried different load again but it needs high (20k-100k Ohm) loading.

How high can you set the load with your EMT jpa66 ? I can't find a manual or specs for that.
My EMT phono mc inputs can't do 47K ohms. If this is such a case I will have to use it through mm input with Airtight stepup. But I wonder why the review in Positive Feedback Mr.Levi said "I utilized 1.85 grams stylus pressure in the Helius Omega Tonearm for this review. I applied about .5 grams of anti-skate. Impedance will require experimentation. I found loads of 100-400 ohms to work well."

you just don't have any of those issues with the LP1 Tang
I thought the LP1has a fixed loading at around 500 ohms.

Anyway once I have the Grado on my SME I will let you know who well it works with my JPA66.

Kind regards,
Tang
 
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My EMT phono mc inputs can't do 47K ohms. If this is such a case I will have to use it through mm input with Airtight stepup. But I wonder why the review in Positive Feedback Mr.Levi said "I utilized 1.85 grams stylus pressure in the Helius Omega Tonearm for this review. I applied about .5 grams of anti-skate. Impedance will require experimentation. I found loads of 100-400 ohms to work well."



I thought the LP1has a fixed loading at around 500 ohms.

Anyway once I have the Grado on my SME I will let you know who well it works with my JPA66.

Kind regards,
Tang
Ok, maybe straight to MM input will work aswell. But yes please let me know.

I can agree with vtf and anti-skate settings but no way with loading in my situation. Tried the Grado now on 4 different tonearms (will report on that later) with different aligns , vta's, vtf's but on all with 47kOhm loading was the best.

Oh when you mount it on SME please be aware you use another headshell e.g. Yamamoto Ebony wood headshell .
Or order the Grado Epoch with 4 mounting holes, the 2 stock are to far in front. That won't work with SME.
I also used it with SME but only with an adapterplate it fits. I will try to make a picture when i am back home.
On all other tonearms it fits straight. (but sounds less.. ;-)

Kind regards
 

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Ok, maybe straight to MM input will work aswell. But yes please let me know.

I can agree with vtf and anti-skate settings but no way with loading in my situation. Tried the Grado now on 4 different tonearms (will report on that later) with different aligns , vta's, vtf's but on all with 47kOhm loading was the best.

Oh when you mount it on SME please be aware you use another headshell e.g. Yamamoto Ebony wood headshell .
Or order the Grado Epoch with 4 mounting holes, the 2 stock are to far in front. That won't work with SME.
I also used it with SME but only with an adapterplate it fits. I will try to make a picture when i am back home.
On all other tonearms it fits straight. (but sounds less.. ;-)

Kind regards
Thank you for the insight.

Tang :)
 

Tango

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Regarding the loading, I already asked Grado about it. They said the Epoch was designed with 47K ohms loading. People who is interested in this cart might want to see if phono stage mm input has enough gain to play without a stepup or the mc input has high enough loading.

Thank you again Audioquattr for giving me warning about the installation issue with SME.

kind regards,
Tang
 

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