The real deal in terms of what? A DSP or a “bit-perfect” dac? That is the question at hand? Nothing wrong if it’s a DSP, but Javier needs to claim it and own it instead of having his owners go out and claim that it’s a “bit-perfect” DAC, from input to output. As I say, based on what I read, I’m sure that I know the answer, as any type you perform any type of “correction” on the data stream you are by definition performing Digital Signal Processing. But I want to hear it from Javier and Wadax or at the very least from John Atkinson at Stereophile.
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The real deal in terms of what? A DSP or a “bit-perfect” dac? That is the question at hand? Nothing wrong if it’s a DSP, but Javier needs to claim it and own it instead of having his owners go out and claim that it’s a “bit-perfect” DAC, from input to output. As I say, based on what I read, I’m sure that I know the answer, as any type you perform any type of “correction” on the data stream you are by definition performing Digital Signal Processing. But I want to hear it from Javier and Wadax or at the very least from John Atkinson at Stereophile.
Which still does not address the noise floor at the DAC output.
Do you think you can bamboozle us, Carlos, diverting the discussion whenever it puts your arguments in peril?
It keeps being too funny.
I dont know the tech details carlos , i m just a mechanical engineer i know next to nothing of Digital design.
But it sounds damn good .
If i would be foolish enough to spend 200 K on digital that would be the one to buy
I will spell it out for you so that it is easy for you to comprehend Al, HQPLAYER uses filters, modulators and noise-shaping algorithms that raise those micro o details and nuances in the digital domain so that they are above the noisefloor and can be perceived. You got it now? Or do I need to cut it up into smaller bites? Read up on HQPLAYER, that way you don’t have to be feed by me.
not true. i have always been clear about the Wadax being an upsampling dac and admitted the conflict with my previous opinion.
breaking my rule of not replying to you to clear up this narrow issue.
have a nice day.
Daniel Weiss offers analogue emulation with his line of Weiss 501 and 502 DACs and DSP-engine units and he calls it as that under his DSP features. At Munich stop by Weiss and listen to their analog emulation and report back on what you hear.
Remember that Carlos is a electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, chemical engineer, sanitation engineer, train engineer, bio engineer, and sound engineer.
i tried this one in my system for an afternoon , it did nt stick / mediocre sound .
I m sure i have heard many weiss dacs over the years it didnt stick , may be my ears aren t good , lol
My current order preference among my DSD512 capable dacs is: 1) ValveDac (Raw-DSD only and only dac in the world that uses the tubes for the conversion process), 2) LampizatOr DSD-Only (one-of-a-kind updated and upgraded and tube), 3) DSC2.5 Pure DSD-Only (Solid State) and 4) T+A DAC8 DSD (Solid State). You can listen to the first two on a video that I posted to one of Ron’s threads for comparison to the same track being played back in Micheal Fremer’s system, which he said was representative of the sound in his room.
The developer of HQPLAYER has a background in the science and technology for detection of submarines and has developed algorithms that allow one to hear things below the noise-floor.
As to why I prefer the my two tube dacs over my two solid state dacs, it is a well documented Psychoacoustic phenomenon that low level noise improves perception and intelligibility of low level details.
You beat me to it. I agree and actually think I might have communicated with him a long long time ago once. Very credible and very good.
You and others listen to music based on the measurements. I can understand that. I never care the measurement. I also don't know who John Atkinson is. I never meet him and I never buy equipments based on the measurements of anyone.
I bought all of my equipments without knowing the measurements. I never care them because I think it is nothing. I only buy my system by listening. If I feel good, I buy. If not, I don't buy. It is so simple.
I may be right or wrong but I don't need anyone teaches me how to spend my money. I know what I do and what I listen to.
Finally, I think you should spend time to listen to music. If you need to listen videos of Wadax, let's search them on Youtube. There are many videos there. I know you still need the measurements after you listen but I don't think you will feel happy even when you see these measurements. You still find other ways to do whatever you can - including inventing stories or claiming fake technical info - to damage or discredit of Wadax.
Wish you feel happy with your choices.
Thank you Peter. Well, I hate to break it to Al (Al M.) but even from this YouTube video I can hear some of the sound characteristics that were reported.
Steven Vu, you got me wrong. If I ask questions it’s because I’m interested to learn more, considering the costs and the hype that some of you have made about these Wadax products it has peaked my interest. Regarding if I’m happy with my choices, I will post a YouTube video of one of my systems playing back this exact track that PeterA posted and you can be the judge of that.
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