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Regarding performances, it is more of why people are not aware of Hoelscher, rather than saying you have to listen only to this Hoelscher interpretation. Hope you understand the gravity of having an information system that does not allow people to be aware of such performers...

Did you even exist when there was no WWW? The greatest reference library in the world still requires that you use it. Information comes to those who seek it.
 
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So, are we saying in the four odd decades that vinyl was released in the billions, esp the golden age of early 50s to late 60s, that the signature pieces out there, eg Holst/Planets, Bach/Brandenberg Concertos, Rimsky Korsakov/Scheherazade, has a limited number of releases worth collecting/listening to, that these releases are agreed across the vast majority of opinions, and even of these, not every pressing is up to snuff?

This is not so random at all...the collectors clearly know which labels used the right equipment, had the best engineers, etc to produce the good recordings. As they know music they also know the performers and the pieces. So they know the musical piece, the performer, the equipment and the engineer. Then it is a matter of verifying by buying and comparing. And knowing which are the good LPs aside, given that LPs are so susceptible to wear and tear as the LP is played, to get the right pressing in the right condition takes loads of investment. However, that still doesn't detract from the point of not knowing performances
 
Phew! You're making me sweat just from yr last reply.
 
Today's special is Paganini Violin Concerto by Rabin/Lovro von Matacic. I listened many violinist and end up with Rabin on Paganini.

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This is a mono. Testament repressed. It sounds good and cheap. I think G had the original on auction last month probably expensive. I never heard the original but if the repressed is good like this, the original should be fantastic. I also happen to have another EMI repressed one in Stereo with Sir Eugene Goossens as conductor. The mono sounds better to me. Although the orchestra is not as clearly laid out like stereo the tone of violin in mono is more pure, distinct.with better presence. Often I have to pick if I want to hear the violin concerto as a whole together with the orchestra or I want to hear the violin as a star.

Tang :)

 
I have the Pagannini Kogan mono original from G. Excellent. Haven't heard this one
 
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I wonder if the inventor of the internet ever imagined this would be one of it's more interesting uses.

Decades old time capsules operating on decades old tech transmitted to the rest of us in a form only communicating less than 1% of the actual info, yet revealing way more than 1% of the actual magic on that old time capsule.
 
Decades old time capsules operating on decades old tech transmitted to the rest of us in a form only communicating less than 1% of the actual info, yet revealing way more than 1% of the actual magic on that old time capsule.
Marc did you put a wrong mushroom into your soup?

Tang o_O
 
I wonder if the inventor of the internet ever imagined this would be one of it's more interesting uses.

Decades old time capsules operating on decades old tech transmitted to the rest of us in a form only communicating less than 1% of the actual info, yet revealing way more than 1% of the actual magic on that old time capsule.

Posted by decades old people at a decades old audience
 
Just to let Tang know it's a little too early for Magic Mushrooms. But just the right time for home-made marmalade infused w brandy. Same effect.
 
You Britts always make me laugh, even though i know how you look, your
dialoge is like something out of Fawlty Towers, my inner film is showing
John Cleese and company in action, guess who is Manuel ;)
 
You Britts always make me laugh, even though i know how you look, your
dialoge is like something out of Fawlty Towers, my inner film is showing
John Cleese and company in action, guess who is Manuel ;)
Sometimes they remind me of Waldorf and Statler :D
 
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More an unholy hybrid of David Brent and Alan Partridge.
 
Today's special is Paganini Violin Concerto by Rabin/Lovro von Matacic. I listened many violinist and end up with Rabin on Paganini.

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This is a mono. Testament repressed. It sounds good and cheap. I think G had the original on auction last month probably expensive. I never heard the original but if the repressed is good like this, the original should be fantastic. I also happen to have another EMI repressed one in Stereo with Sir Eugene Goossens as conductor. The mono sounds better to me. Although the orchestra is not as clearly laid out like stereo the tone of violin in mono is more pure, distinct.with better presence. Often I have to pick if I want to hear the violin concerto as a whole together with the orchestra or I want to hear the violin as a star.

Tang :)


If the repress sounds like that... no need to buy a stepped on for $200 poor grade one.

Thanks, another great piece.
 
I can only thank my lucky stars that I started collecting vinyl in the late 70s, and went into overdrive in the 80s. At that point, new lps were £5-7, good quality s/h was mere pennies, and the odd significant collectible like Japanese pressings was c.£15.

Fast fwd two to three decades...

Amazing collection you built up in 40 years
 
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So is your's Ked. I'm glad I'm not feeling like the only way to get good performances and sonics is to pay eye watering amounts of cash.

You must be kicking yself you didn't get into vinyl when it wasn't simply a rich man's obsession when only the best will do. As it seems to be now.
 
So is your's Ked. I'm glad I'm not feeling like the only way to get good performances and sonics is to pay eye watering amounts of cash.

You must be kicking yself you didn't get into vinyl when it wasn't simply a rich man's obsession when only the best will do. As it seems to be now.

Unfortunately much younger than you, as the ears show. And no I am not paying eye watering amounts on waste, just more focused planned purchasing.

The point I am making still though is... Why did audiophiles like you who have been focused on purchase of LPs for four decades miss the big recordings and performers when they were much lower priced and more widely available? With or without the internet, that information system is missing something big. And it is not like there weren't people out there who were sharing the information.
 
Ked, classical has only really been a big interest to me in the last 10 years. So I'm where you are re putting up w hyperinflation.

For me it was prog, fusion, electronic, modern jazz.

I started sniffing out the best Japanese and original US and UK pressings on my genres 20 years ago. Max spend per lp, £15, 80s/90s era collecting.

I have 150 Japanese, and first pressings US and UK for Miles Davis Classic Quintet mid 60s onwards and 70s fusion/electric jazz period, and Coltrane 60s Atlantic and Impulse labels period incl his late 60s free jazz madness, Ornette Coleman, Eric Dolphy etc. Almost all of these beat the UK reissues from 90s hands down.

Plus a ton of first and max second pressings for Hendrix, Santana, prog legends, Mahavishnu, Weather Report etc.

My Led Zep Japan pressings are special sonically, esp LZ3.

In hindsight, yes, more attention to classical would have made sense.
 
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