Anyone Understand Design Approach of Stenheim? What are they doing differently from Magico, YG, Wilson, etc., to have High Sensitivity?

[microstrip]

Tell your friend our very own @tima liked the Lamm hybrids and wrote a wonderful review on them

In fact the Lamm's M1.2R are widely reviewed along the years, Stereophile even did it twice.
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[jeff1225]

Fortunately ...

Anyway, the main conclusion of this thread seems to be that Steinheim are not high efficiency, being not different from many other box speaker is this aspect and WBF members have different preferences.

I believe that Steinheim's contribution to the audio world is an aluminum box construction with a port as compared to YG and Magico which are sealed.

Unless I've missed something.

 

[Nakor]

The music doesn't come out of the system, the playback time of the cd player is always the same, and the turntable has suddenly disappeared 2.43 min ... strange

Strange video indeed. Turntable disappears and then appears again, but where do you see a CD player..?

 

[bonzo75]

Tell your friend our very own @tima liked the Lamm hybrids and wrote a wonderful review on them

This reviewer prefers the 120w KR to the Lamm hybrids http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipment/kr_audio_va910.htm

 

[tima]

This reviewer prefers the 120w KR to the Lamm hybrids http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipment/kr_audio_va910.htm

Which tells us nothing about Stenheim. But wait, here's a chance for even more confusing triangulation with Atkinson's review of the Lansch 5.1 speaker (used in that KR Audio amp review you cite) that included the M1.2Ref. Do you agree that each amplifier does not work well with every speaker?

Lansche Audio 5.1 loudspeaker

The phenomenon of the "singing flame" has been known since the 19th century. Place electrodes either side of a flame and, if you apply a high enough audio-modulated voltage to those electrodes, the ionized particles in the flame will cause it to emit sound.

www.stereophile.com

 

[No Regrets]

The music doesn't come out of the system, the playback time of the cd player is always the same, and the turntable has suddenly disappeared 2.43 min ... strange

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what brand/model that mysterious turntable was?
Thanks for sharing!
Don

 

[KeithR]

JV gives a rave review to the Alumine 5…says in not so many words dynamics more natural than horns, bested cones with lots of tonal color and great bass. Slightly soft treble.

I think this is a great upcoming brand.

 

[bonzo75]

JV gives a rave review to the Alumine 5…says in not so many words dynamics more natural than horns, bested cones with lots of tonal color and great bass. Slightly soft treble.

I think this is a great upcoming brand.

I first said back in 2016 or so that the Alumine 5 bested most cones. Also the bigger steinheim is excellent.

 

[bonzo75]

I first said back in 2016 or so that the Alumine 5 bested most cones. Also the bigger steinheim is excellent.

But Gauder (with Vitus in Munich), Zellaton (as at audio arts not as at Munich), Avalon are excellent as well. Avalon very room fussy. Verity very nice and lower price too. And in small speakers at the same price I will take the audionec over steinheim alumine 5 having heard them in the same room at Anamighty

 

[morricab]

JV gives a rave review to the Alumine 5…says in not so many words dynamics more natural than horns, bested cones with lots of tonal color and great bass. Slightly soft treble.

I think this is a great upcoming brand.

I have heard this speaker now many times as it is demoed frequently in Switzerland being a Swiss brand. It’s dynamics do not sound more realistic than a good horn but it does better a lot of cone/some speakers. You Fynes shoukd have comparable dynamics I would guess. Bass is not better or worse than a lot of other brands but mids are quite nice with the high sensitivity cone they use…a bit like a Supravox driver.

 

[bonzo75]

Steinheim bass is excellent compared to cones, well integrated too.

 

[morricab]

But Gauder (with Vitus in Munich), Zellaton (as at audio arts not as at Munich), Avalon are excellent as well. Avalon very room fussy. Verity very nice and lower price too. And in small speakers at the same price I will take the audionec over steinheim alumine 5 having heard them in the same room at Anamighty

My biggest issue with Stenheim is value, it is very expensive for the performance envelope it can deliver.

 

[morricab]

Steinheim bass is excellent compared to cones, well integrated too.

Stenheim bass is cones…what are you saying??

 

[bonzo75]

Stenheim bass is cones…what are you saying??

Compared to other cone speakers I mean

 

[bonzo75]

My biggest issue with Stenheim is value, it is very expensive for the performance envelope it can deliver.

That is true with most cones nowadays. I am just saying how it compares, if I have to buy I will buy a vintage tannoy over it for 15k but that's not current nor serviced not distributed. It is better than the bad horns that cost the same or more

 

[morricab]

That is true with most cones nowadays. I am just saying how it compares, if I have to buy I will buy a vintage tannoy over it for 15k but that's not current nor serviced not distributed. It is better than the bad horns that cost the same or more

I would probably go with the newest Living Voice OBX-RW4 over these for a highish sensitivity cone/some speaker…those sounded awesome in Munich with a good 300b amp. I don’t think a 300b would be enough for the Alumine 3 or 5…just a gut feeling but could be wrong. The LV is good value in today’s market.

 

[morricab]

That is true with most cones nowadays. I am just saying how it compares, if I have to buy I will buy a vintage tannoy over it for 15k but that's not current nor serviced not distributed. It is better than the bad horns that cost the same or more

I have not heard any Tannoys I would like to own…

 

[bonzo75]

I have not heard any Tannoys I would like to own…

Which vintage tannoys have you heard

 

[KeithR]

I would probably go with the newest Living Voice OBX-RW4 over these for a highish sensitivity cone/some speaker…those sounded awesome in Munich with a good 300b amp. I don’t think a 300b would be enough for the Alumine 3 or 5…just a gut feeling but could be wrong. The LV is good value in today’s market.

a bit apples and oranges as the OBX doesn't have real bass. the Alumine 5 is a full range transducer.

LV isn't really sold in the US fyi

 

[KeithR]

My biggest issue with Stenheim is value, it is very expensive for the performance envelope it can deliver.

isn't everything Swiss? to me it's a hard sell in the US at $72k when a Wilson Alexia is around $58k. People are going to cross shop the Stenheim with Wilson I imagine.