Digital or analog? Breuninger says... and asks what says you?
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I,m not kidding i had a friend ( god rest is soul ) was so much into analog use to say that the surface noise was part of the music. Yeah
and that's often true, but there isn't no noise, so it all depends on how much it bothers one.
I suppose he never had the pleasure of being exposed to the deficiences of digital?
No listener fatigue here, tis the beauty of the rig. On numerous occasions, as mentioned in other threads, these uber table owners and other colleagues would stop in for listening sessions after work and didn't leave till midnight. SO's would call wondering where they were, redbook and HiRez only. Apparently this fatigueing digi was not available at home and addicting. Karen would crack up and say these guys have more invested in just their speakers, I would just
Yes your right John, he died to young did not get to discover what Linn could do with digital.
No listener fatigue here, tis the beauty of the rig. On numerous occasions, as mentioned in other threads, these uber table owners and other colleagues would stop in for listening sessions after work and didn't leave till midnight. SO's would call wondering where they were, redbook and HiRez only. Apparently this fatigueing digi was not available at home and addicting. Karen would crack up and say these guys have more invested in just their speakers, I would just
Unfortunately for me I suppose, I still suffer from it when exposed to digital music for lengthy periods. I mean no disrespect or lack of appreciation for the format, but I cannot handle digital output for very long. It's one of the reasons why I haven't introduced digital into my 2Ch setup, preferring to keep it for background enjoyment and while I'm on my PC.
Ok now i understand, comparing a good turntable ( i suppose ) with a pc playback system now that's fair, that's what i use for background music, Rega Brio integrated - Wharfedale NXT panels and my PC.
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Given a good set-up and DAC, your PC has the potential to out-perform any CD transport. It's really not even much of a contest. Nice gargoyles.
Tim
Tim
im no apologist for the Lp, but with regards to ticks/pops, on better systems it usually stays at the speaker position and hangs back on a plane not congruous with the music. at the recent Newport show this was borne out with the top LP driven rooms, the vandersteen 7/ARC/Basis room comes to mind.
This thread has devolved to where I thought it would-analog haters on one side, digital haters on the other side, and those of us who listen to all formats somewhere in the middle. Those of us who listen to all the formats have the opportunity to compare them on a daily basis and have formed opinions to the pecking order vice people who have to rely on memories of what analog sounded like on so-so tables, arms, and cartridges.
For those analog haters that can’t stand a single tic or pop while 99% of the music sounds fantastic, you certainly made the right choice switching to digital. Too bad you aren’t as critical of the sound quality of digital as you are with analog noise. I wonder how you get past the low-level tape hiss that is recorded on many CDs you own? A super huge portion of available music is sourced from tape.
You can listen exclusively to digital and swear you are hearing everything there is to hear or you can listen to all formats and figure out what the real truth is. I choose to listen to all formats.
For those analog haters that can’t stand a single tic or pop while 99% of the music sounds fantastic, you certainly made the right choice switching to digital. Too bad you aren’t as critical of the sound quality of digital as you are with analog noise. I wonder how you get past the low-level tape hiss that is recorded on many CDs you own? A super huge portion of available music is sourced from tape.
You can listen exclusively to digital and swear you are hearing everything there is to hear or you can listen to all formats and figure out what the real truth is. I choose to listen to all formats.
I wasn't a big fan of their first SOTA digital player. Bass was totally discontinuous with the rest of the spectrum among other problems.
And I know that the objectivists will skewer me but solid-solid reproduces pops and clicks very differently than tube gear.
You didn't have to be The Great Carnak to predict that
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x802iz_johnny-carson-as-carnac-from-1974_fun
Not to mention, some of the best sounding discs are AAA.
-----Speaking of Linn Andre, did you know that Ivor was/is an Analog and a Digital Freek! :b
...And you must be familiar with the ex-Linn Sondek CD12 CD player?
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Hi
The thread although innocuous does somewhat invite to this analog vs digital debate.
I listen to 90% digital these days. About 7 years ago it wasn't so. I began then to notice that my first reflex to play music was to fire the Burmester transport and DAC... The TT (Basis) was there with a good arm , good cart, good Phono preamp and yet was seeing less and less playing time .. Not a matter of tick and pops.. not really just the fact that I came to the realization that digital was good and as good as anything analog, different? maybe.. but good ... as good as analog. I know many would jump at this .. I can honestly say having now heard many a needle drop that the best needle drop are indistinguishable fro the original LP on a good Digital gear... I can bet most if not ALL analog fans would be utterly fooled by some needle drops ... Of course with the knowledge of which is which, the analog will acquire more organs ( I suppose that is what the term "organic" means in audiophile parlance ) ...Of course there will be groans and rolleyes ..Hey the truth is often unsettling but ...
I inherited about 1000 LPs and have begun to clean them with a Nittiy Gitty record cleaner. My next move will be the Ultrasonic cleaner Mike Lavigne raved about. It simply makes sense and will allow me to enjoy more from those treasured records.. My listening habits will however remain mostly digital with these days a good dollop of mp3 courtesy of Spotify, Pandora and Internet Radio stations...
The thread although innocuous does somewhat invite to this analog vs digital debate.
I listen to 90% digital these days. About 7 years ago it wasn't so. I began then to notice that my first reflex to play music was to fire the Burmester transport and DAC... The TT (Basis) was there with a good arm , good cart, good Phono preamp and yet was seeing less and less playing time .. Not a matter of tick and pops.. not really just the fact that I came to the realization that digital was good and as good as anything analog, different? maybe.. but good ... as good as analog. I know many would jump at this .. I can honestly say having now heard many a needle drop that the best needle drop are indistinguishable fro the original LP on a good Digital gear... I can bet most if not ALL analog fans would be utterly fooled by some needle drops ... Of course with the knowledge of which is which, the analog will acquire more organs ( I suppose that is what the term "organic" means in audiophile parlance
) ...Of course there will be groans and rolleyes ..Hey the truth is often unsettling but ...I inherited about 1000 LPs and have begun to clean them with a Nittiy Gitty record cleaner. My next move will be the Ultrasonic cleaner Mike Lavigne raved about. It simply makes sense and will allow me to enjoy more from those treasured records.. My listening habits will however remain mostly digital with these days a good dollop of mp3 courtesy of Spotify, Pandora and Internet Radio stations...
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