Gamut M250i mono blocks vs ???

JayDee

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I really like my Gamut M250i mono blocks and I understand others do too with them picking up the Golden Ear accolade 4 years in a row from TAS

Given i like speed, power & resolution were would you go next? Or are these really on a par with current amps costing much more?

Really interested in peoples views
 

thedudeabides

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Hi JayDee,

What do you think you are missing with your current set up which seems quite nice? If you can't answer that question, you may wish to consider why you are looking to change things up. The only opinion that counts is yours.
 

JayDee

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Thanks - and I understand that

i supose I am asking you all if I am missing anything. I see lots of talk about amazing amps on here and wondered if anyone had experience of the Gamuts and has moved on
 

thedudeabides

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If you are happy with what you have, why bother? Obviously and with all due respect, no-one can tell you are missing "something" whatever that may be. And there will always be something that may be better. I can honestly say I'm "done" buying gear, after decades in this hobby, unless something fails. Best of luck.
 

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Do you find that you have good musical involvement out of your system? It would seem you are not happy as you are asking questions. TAS can give a product all the golden ear awards they want but if that product doesn't jell in your system to involve you in the music then something needs to be adjusted/changed. I can't say that it is your amps. What do you like most about what your system does? What do you like least?
 

JayDee

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I am always looking for trends with gear. My Gamuts have come alive with a better pre amp and source, but I suppose I am wondering why there are no other Gamut users on here. is that because there are better power amps which i don't know about or because others never discovered Gamut?
 

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I am always looking for trends with gear. My Gamuts have come alive with a better pre amp and source, but I suppose I am wondering why there are no other Gamut users on here. is that because there are better power amps which i don't know about or because others never discovered Gamut?

Hi Jade - Fellow GamuT owner here!

I have (actually had) the D200 Mk III stereo amplifier. I bought it used as I had a credit note from the dealer I bought a Benchmark AHB2 from. The Benchmark was so bland and dull (one wanted to turn down the volume) that I returned it. The dealer had a good selection of used equipment and I spotted the GamuT. It has excellent reviews so I bought it untested - the dealer is 500 miles away.

Yes, it's a great amp and in particular the bass was astonishingly fulsome and well controlled. However it had a problem - one that may or may not be present in the M250i monos that you have. Turning on the power, there's a thump that is not supressed and causes an understandable protest from my 104dB speakers. They don't like this one bit and make this known to all by very loudly announcing their displeasure in such a way I was concerned for their welfare.

If I look at the User Guide, I see that this is a known and admitted feature on both my Mk III and the latest i version. I've not looked at the M250i manual, so I don't know if this feature affects their entire amplifier range. Most speakers would murmur a recognition that they've been given a short awakening shock, but high efficiency speakers will loudly protest.

This is something that GamuT could so easily correct - as is done with most other good amplifiers. A relay that keeps the binding posts disconnected from the amp's circuit for 3 or 4 seconds is all that's required. So, much as I loved the sound of the GamuT, I recently sold it to a happy buyer in Iceland.

The GamuT has one big advantage over most power amps - an ability to adjust the gain - by up to 14 dB. However I find it annoying that one has to remove 16 screws to remove the top plate to reach the dip switched to change the gain. Why could this not be done with a switch on the front panel (as Accuphase) or back panel (as Benchmark). Rant over - GamuT build great sounding amps.

I see you have Gamut speakers - the lovely RS7i which are far less sensitive at 89dB, so this switch-on thump (if delivered by your amps) may be barely audible. It may be difficult for you to find a better amp. There's always an advantage to having equipment from the same stable as you can be sure that their listening testing tests during prototype evaluation is done on their own family equipment. Good luck in your search - it may be a long and costly one as was mine to find an ideal SS amp to replace the SETs I was previously using. Peter
 
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samsamsam

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Hi JayDee,

want to ask a question about Gamut speaker,can you tell me how to use a spade to connect to the speaker terminal?the speaker terminal it's seem very thick.thanks

Sam
 

audio.bill

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Hi JayDee,

want to ask a question about Gamut speaker,can you tell me how to use a spade to connect to the speaker terminal?the speaker terminal it's seem very thick.thanks

Sam
Sam - While I don't have first hand experience with the Gamut speakers or the terminals they use, there are different size spades available. It's not uncommon for a specific component's binding posts to require either a larger or smaller spade to fit correctly. Most cable companies can fit an appropriate sized spade connector to their cables if you let them know what you're connecting to.
 

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Sam - While I don't have first hand experience with the Gamut speakers or the terminals they use, there are different size spades available. It's not uncommon for a specific component's binding posts to require either a larger or smaller spade to fit correctly. Most cable companies can fit an appropriate sized spade connector to their cables if you let them know what you're connecting to.


Thanks a lot
 

JayDee

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Hi JayDee,

want to ask a question about Gamut speaker,can you tell me how to use a spade to connect to the speaker terminal?the speaker terminal it's seem very thick.thanks

Sam
Sam

The speaker connections are over sized. It is best to use Banana or bare wire. The terminal is too big for spades
 

samsamsam

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I am always looking for trends with gear. My Gamuts have come alive with a better pre amp and source, but I suppose I am wondering why there are no other Gamut users on here. is that because there are better power amps which i don't know about or because others never discovered Gamut?

Hi,i'm a user of Gamut m250i too.it's a really good ampifer no matter compare other ampifer.but unfortunately now is discontinued:(
not many people use Gamut ampifer,i think is the look so common.:Dnot like TANK.and the ampifer sound is non colour,most people didn't like.but in fact i think that is good for match other gears(speaker,pre).
i am not a user of Gamut speaker, yesterday i ask a question of Gamut terminal is help my friend to ask.
 

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I note today that the GamuT site is ominously not available. Does anyone know if the company is still in business?

http://www.gamutaudio.com/
 
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Website is work again
I love my Gamut Monos But have been temped into the world of Gyphon monos. If amyine wants a great pair of immaculate black M250i’s watch this space.
 

Hear Here

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Thanks, but something rather worrying - no electronics - only speakers (and cables) featured on their gamut.com website. However a search for Gamut D200 leads to a gamut.com page giving full details. Probably the same with other electronics. How odd they don't offer electronics on their menu.

http://www.gamutaudio.com/

Perhaps now they are part of the Dantax group, they've had to drop their electronic ranges. A pity if true, although their equipment was certainly due for a few changes as "faults" that have existed in decades-old products like the D200 had still not been resolved. I'm referring for example to the terrible power-up and power-down thump that was sent to the speakers. This was acknowledged by Gamut as it was mentioned in their User Manual, but inexcusable these days and easily resolved with a simple soft-start relay circuit This thump was particular serious with high efficiency speakers such as my 104 dB jobs. No trigger either. Peter
 

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All the GamuT electronics are discontinued. They're supposedly working on a brand new line.
 

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Heard the Gamuts, heard the Gryphons, albeit under show conditions. I have heard almost all the contenders, If you have not heard the Audionet SS gear (particularly the MAXs and the Heisenbergs), you should.
 

samsamsam

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Thanks, but something rather worrying - no electronics - only speakers (and cables) featured on their gamut.com website. However a search for Gamut D200 leads to a gamut.com page giving full details. Probably the same with other electronics. How odd they don't offer electronics on their menu.

http://www.gamutaudio.com/

Perhaps now they are part of the Dantax group, they've had to drop their electronic ranges. A pity if true, although their equipment was certainly due for a few changes as "faults" that have existed in decades-old products like the D200 had still not been resolved. I'm referring for example to the terrible power-up and power-down thump that was sent to the speakers. This was acknowledged by Gamut as it was mentioned in their User Manual, but inexcusable these days and easily resolved with a simple soft-start relay circuit This thump was particular serious with high efficiency speakers such as my 104 dB jobs. No trigger either. Peter
the problem for me is not obvious,but i suggest that before you turn it off the amp,turn the volume to ZERO first.
 

samsamsam

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I love my Gamut Monos But have been temped into the world of Gyphon monos. If amyine wants a great pair of immaculate black M250i’s watch this space.
WOW,hope you can write a review for compare those amp.thanks
 

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