KL Audio Record Cleaning Machine vs Audio Desk Systeme

XV-1

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My Nitty Gritty is in the same room, hence the no music......If I do a cleaning session then I might have some flac files playing, but no vinyl.
When I had my Nitty Gritty I bought industrial ear muffs and put them on when using :D

My Hannl does not really clean any better, however so much quieter - I have able to retire the ear muffs:)
 

MtnHam

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I too have a Klaudio, and am delighted. Previously I had a Nitty Gritty, which was replaced about 5 years ago with a VPI 16.5. One of the wonderful things about the Klaudio is that I keep it in an room adjacent to the listening room, can place the next LP in it, close the door, and go enjoy music while it's being cleaned! Additionally, when it's done there is NO STATIC CHARGE!! Major! It is also miles ahead of the VPI- my LPs never sounded better!

I use a larger funnel than the one supplied, which has eliminated that issue. No problems.
 
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Suteetat

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I am very happy with my unit as well. It costs quite a bit to start in comparison to standard vacuum unit but in the long run, maintenance cost is the lowest. I have Clearaudio Matrix machine and I spend hundreds of dollars on various cleaning fluid every year and never achieve the cleaning result that I did with KL. Considering
the amount of time, effort and convenience, if the KL does not have any maintenance issue, I think it is well worth the cost and is a better buy than conventional
cleaning machine.
 

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MylesBAstor

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Amado

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Got mine today

Wow, KL really works !!!
Is like taking the seal of new vinyl

congrats ... This machine rocks
 
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Any other $4K ultrasonic cleaners on the horizon? Just a couple of years after I get my Audio Desk Systeme, comes the KL. My VPI 16 and its successors lasted more than 25 years. I've cleaned over 6000 records on my AD. Not looking forward to doing them all again.

Has anyone done the old vacuum cleaner trick. Start with cleaner A and then do cleaner B. After B, the record will be cleaner. However, if you start with cleaner B and then do cleaner A, then after A the record will be cleaner. Or if you start with cleaner A and then do cleaner A again, the record will be cleaner. Or is the KL different? One cleaning and the record is perfectly clean and can't get audibly cleaner?

Larry
 
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My take on it is the KLA is a better mousetrap - maybe. Either way the AD still works fine as a mousetrap..
 

rockitman

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Another observation of the KL versus ADS...the KL only requires 2.5 liters of water versus almost 4 liters for the ADS. I am very happy with this machine and don't miss the ADS which is vacationing in Germany to repair dead ultrasonic transducers.
 
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Another observation of the KL versus ADS...the KL only requires 2.5 liters of water versus almost 4 liters for the ADS. (...)
Christian,
Unless you are cleaning LPs in the Sahara I do not think it is very relevant ... ;) Living in Europe my preference went for the ADS - and happily my cleaner has being working faultless for a few months.
 

rockitman

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Christian,
Unless you are cleaning LPs in the Sahara I do not think it is very relevant ... ;) Living in Europe my preference went for the ADS - and happily my cleaner has being working faultless for a few months.
I guess my point was that water must be added slowly to the KL using a small funnel. So you have to be patient filling it. Only having to add 2.5 litres of water in this case is a good thing. If it took as much water as the ADS, it would take twice as long. Since you are in Europe, future repairs on your ADS (almost a guarantee IME) are much faster since Germany is near by. My ADS will take 2 months for service.
 

Frank750

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Another observation of the KL versus ADS...the KL only requires 2.5 liters of water versus almost 4 liters for the ADS. I am very happy with this machine and don't miss the ADS which is vacationing in Germany to repair dead ultrasonic transducers.
You have really had bad luck with the ADS, you've sent it back a couple of times, haven't you? I sometimes have to give the record a nudge to get it turning but that has been my only problem (knock on wood) in a year +.
 

rockitman

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You have really had bad luck with the ADS, you've sent it back a couple of times, haven't you? I sometimes have to give the record a nudge to get it turning but that has been my only problem (knock on wood) in a year +.
Yes two times. I love the KL smooth operation. Drop the toast in and that's it. The roller system for spinning the record is superior to the ADS squeaky wheel implementation that also requires a nudge to engage.
 
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I guess my point was that water must be added slowly to the KL using a small funnel. So you have to be patient filling it. Only having to add 2.5 litres of water in this case is a good thing. If it took as much water as the ADS, it would take twice as long. Since you are in Europe, future repairs on your ADS (almost a guarantee IME) are much faster since Germany is near by. My ADS will take 2 months for service.
The ultrasonics on my ADS died this week. I was talking to a friend, he has a ADS and had a problem but he sent his to Ultra Systems in New Hope, Pennsylvania for repair. He said they are the importer for ADS, not sure on this. Ultra Systems repaired the unit, put new cleaner barrels on it and sent it back in a week. http://www.ultrasystem.com

My dealer is taking my ADS in trade and getting me a KL.
 

ddk

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You have really had bad luck with the ADS, you've sent it back a couple of times, haven't you? I sometimes have to give the record a nudge to get it turning but that has been my only problem (knock on wood) in a year +.
That's not a problem, it's how they're designed.
 
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rockitman

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The ultrasonics on my ADS died this week. I was talking to a friend, he has a ADS and had a problem but he sent his to Ultra Systems in New Hope, Pennsylvania for repair. He said they are the importer for ADS, not sure on this. Ultra Systems repaired the unit, put new cleaner barrels on it and sent it back in a week. http://www.ultrasystem.com

My dealer is taking my ADS in trade and getting me a KL.
according to ADS, my unit was the first one with ultrasonic transducer failure. I do find that hard to believe now. If your utrasonics are dead, it has to go back to Germany. Ultra Systems is not equipped to make that sort of repair. It's a two month process to get it back. Ultra Systems did offer me a loaner unit, which is a nice service. I declined it as I wouldn't use it any way when I have the KL hanging around. I plan to sell my ADS once it is back. The warranty will expire this coming August.
 

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