My new ride !!

[Hedgedrew66]

Your wife didn't try and talk you down from the WAMS/subs!

How big is your room, and are the walls solid or timber frame?

Second wife puts up with craziness more than any first !!! Lol. Room is built with room between rooms with doubled up studs. 17.5x 23

 

[marty]

Lol. I had trouble with vtl too. Plenty pf tube errors. !! Heated room up pretty toasty too. Lol.

Yeah, but the beauty of VTL is that is there's a bad tube, you look to see which one it is by the glowing indicator light, you change it, push a few buttons and you're done. It is sadly, one of the most pleasurable experiences you can have in the world of high end audio monster tube amps since it turns a nightmare scenario into breeze! No shipping back to the factory required!

 

[Hedgedrew66]

Yeah, but the beauty of VTL is that is there's a bad tube, you look to see which one it is by the glowing indicator light, you change it, push a few buttons and you're done. It is sadly, one of the most pleasurable experiences you can have in the world of high end audio monster tube amps since it turns a nightmare scenario into breeze! No shipping back to the factory required!

That is true !! There has also been lots of newer tubes sonically improved maybe lol that other manufacturers are using. Bee and luke seem little slow on new products and designs.

 

[infinitely baffled]

Excellent! Very very interesting, and fwiw, I have had subs in 6 rooms over the last 20 years. Obviously with varying degrees of success...but ultimately, with the X1s and now the XLFs (which are still yet to be set up/calibrated to the system/room)...I have always found that even when severely cut off above 40hz and basically silent through certain passages, they are a must have for me when it comes to that sense of the venue, the spacial cues, the 'enveloping sense of space and realism'...and of course certain music where there actually is a lot of information in that subterranean level. And that is a single DD18+, let alone dual Subsonics...

I still reckon you'd prefer two DD18+'s?

 

[LL21]

Excellent! Very very interesting, and fwiw, I have had subs in 6 rooms over the last 20 years. Obviously with varying degrees of success...but ultimately, with the X1s and now the XLFs (which are still yet to be set up/calibrated to the system/room)...I have always found that even when severely cut off above 40hz and basically silent through certain passages, they are a must have for me when it comes to that sense of the venue, the spacial cues, the 'enveloping sense of space and realism'...and of course certain music where there actually is a lot of information in that subterranean level. And that is a single DD18+, let alone dual Subsonics...

I still reckon you'd prefer two DD18+'s?

I reckon you're right! In fact, from some other owners of Velodynes and other big subs, I would not be surprised in our room if a dual-stack of Velodynes did not work exceedingly well.

 

[CKKeung]

Yeah, but the beauty of VTL is that is there's a bad tube, you look to see which one it is by the glowing indicator light, you change it, push a few buttons and you're done. It is sadly, one of the most pleasurable experiences you can have in the world of high end audio monster tube amps since it turns a nightmare scenario into breeze! No shipping back to the factory required!

Similarly safe and convenient for the German Audio Valves.
Their auto-bias and protection circuits with individual indicator lights for each tube are excellent.
Very safe even for their monstor poweramps.

 

[andromedaaudio]

CAT has a switch which you can turn .
Overall bias , bias per tube , balance.
Just turn the switch to the tube you suspect if it reads 0 its dead .
Change the tube , overall bias setting remains the same

 

[Hedgedrew66]

New formation much better.

 

[Hedgedrew66]

 

[LL21]

Stunning! Electronics, equipment rack/isolation and of course speakers! Curious...are you contemplating any room treatments? I could well imagine your decision going either way given how beautiful the room is.

 

[Hedgedrew66]

Stunning! Electronics, equipment rack/isolation and of course speakers! Curious...are you contemplating any room treatments? I could well imagine your decision going either way given how beautiful the room is.

They are already buried under fabric panels. We may do something on window glass. Or between the subs.

 

[CKKeung]

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New formation much better.

Yes, stunningly beautiful!

 

[LL21]

They are already buried under fabric panels. We may do something on window glass. Or between the subs.

Excellent! When you have some time, it would be interesting to hear what you found to be the improvements as you moved the subs around and settled on these locations. Was it mainly an improvement in coherence/integration or were there other benefits in relation to clarity/detail/smoothness as well?

 

[andromedaaudio]

Nice

 

[Marck1973]

So how is the Momentum HD preamp?! New layout looks terrific.

 

[Hedgedrew66]

Excellent! When you have some time, it would be interesting to hear what you found to be the improvements as you moved the subs around and settled on these locations. Was it mainly an improvement in coherence/integration or were there other benefits in relation to clarity/detail/smoothness as well?

Let you know when they in final place.

 

[Hedgedrew66]

So how is the Momentum HD preamp?! New layout looks terrific.

Still playing. Like what i hear. !!

 

[Marck1973]

Still playing. Like what i hear. !!

Good to hear, although not surprised!

 

[LL21]

Let you know when they in final place.

Thank you very much.

 

[dcathro]

Still playing. Like what i hear. !!

I would have thought that WA would have set these up for you.