Ron's Favorite Private Rooms + Systems of All Time

Heilbrunn (TAS) seems to change equipment frequently. He had the Wilson Alexandria X2s (Classe 600W SS) and (I believe) before the Avantgardes, he had the XVXs with the DartZ and Thor subwoofers. You may need a subscription to keep track.
So is there a trajectory to his movement and a sonata form to his evolution or is he just playing at themes and variations… where is the gestalt :eek:
 
Fantastic sized room Milan… would love to play with a room with that scale.
I have to agree, I would love to have this kind of space!

A large room is not everything and probably comes with its own pro and con but I wonder how many forum members have this kind of space or more for that matter?
 
I have to agree, I would love to have this kind of space!

A large room is not everything and probably comes with its own pro and con but I wonder how many forum members have this kind of space or more for that matter?

I would love to but I don't. For the suburban kind of neighborhood in Massachusetts where I live my living room is actually relatively large, but it's still just a medium sized room (dimensions see my signature). I am very happy with the sound that I was able to achieve in my room, but I do know that for the very best sound a large room is mandatory. It makes a big difference, especially on large-scale music.
 
Seven (7) favorite private rooms + systems of all time as of November 11, 2024, in no particular order:

Jack Duavit, dedicated, custom-built room, Von Schweikert VR-11, Lamm preamp and amplifiers, TechDAS Air Force One

Mike Lavigne, dedicated, custom-built room, Evolution Acoustics MM7, darTZeel preamp, VAC amplifiers

Ali Lehman, dedicated room (not custom-built), Avantgarde Trio G3, bass-horns, REL, Berning 211 SET/VAC, EMIA TVC(?), Continuum turntable

Marty, dedicated, custom-built room, Wilson Audio Alexx V, Zanden phono, Soulution preamp, Gryphon Mephistos, Dohmann Helix

Jeroen (audioquattr), dedicated room (not custom built), Cessaro Zeta, custom subwoofers, The Grail phono, Lampizator phono, Alieno preamp, Trafomatic Elysium, VYGER

Todd (sbnx), dedicated, custom-built room, Avantgarde Trio G3 with iTron, bass-horns, Wilson Benesch Torus, CH preamp, CH DAC, Wadax streamer (added March 18, 2024)

Jacob Heilbrunn, dedicated, custom-built room, Avantgarde Trio G3 with 3 pairs of bass-horns, 4 Wilson Benesch Torus, darTZeel preamp, darTZeel 468 amplifiers, TechDAS Air Force Zero, Wilson Benesch GMT One + Graviton (added November 11, 2024)
3 of which are AG Trios. Concurs with own first-time-ever sense that I could go horns when I heard the AG Trios 2 years ago. I tried recently to hear them again but the dealer said they were not set up so did not stop by. Will try again another time.
 
Big Wilson’s or big horns in a big room it seems for Ron.
I should say the same about myself. The slight difference would be:
- I am big Wilsons, big Rockports in big rooms
- So far, on horns I am AG Trio G3 only

While I have little experience with horns, the small and bigger horns I have heard have never inspired me to come back to learn more or listen more.

But the AGs are for me very different in the ways that matter to me, creating the body and propulsive power as well as dynamic richness I enjoy from the big Wilsons and Rockports but with the alacrity, insanely delicate nuance and sheer scale that certainly the big Wilsons would I suspect struggle to match (Arrakis closer but even with them, did not intuitively sense they could quite match).
 
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So far, on horns I am AG Trio G3 only

While I have little experience with horns, the small and bigger horns I have heard have never inspired me to come back to learn more or listen more.

Might you appraise us as to the other Horns / Systems that you have experience of ?
 
But the AGs are for me very different in the ways that matter to me, creating the body and propulsive power as well as dynamic richness I enjoy from the big Wilsons and Rockports
In this case you are referring to slam bang macro dynamics. I have never heard an inefficient speaker remotely match the dynamic range of low to high rise of an instrument or orchestra. Not even close. They seem very flat in a narrow range in comparision. No matter what the mammoth amps driving them are.

Dynamics of a high sensitivity easy to drive speaker allows you to listen to the smallest shift and rise and fall in comparison and larger swings. For better macro dynamics, bigger woofers and horn size is required in addition to the ease of movement and drive. Of course horn woofers are easier to drive and much bigger than the ones in Wilsons or rockports (e.g. two 15 inches horn loaded in one speaker), and require less grip to push. They might not come with the same box colouration cone users are used to (the box allows loudness from a smaller woofer, tricking lesser experienced people into thinking they are getting more bass, where in essence it is the same box colour).
 
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Big Wilson’s or big horns in a big room it seems for Ron.
For me personally? As I have never in my entire life owned a loudspeaker that was not a planar dipole it should be obvious that this is not correct.

Manufacturers of dynamic driver loudspeakers and of horn loudspeakers have tried to make me offers they hoped I couldn't refuse. I still have only planar dipole loudspeakers.

Big room? Yes. I wish my home listening room were 5 feet wider and 10 feet longer (to get to 25 feet wide and 35 feet long).
 
For me personally? As I have never in my entire life owned a loudspeaker that was not a planar dipole it should be obvious that this is not correct.

Manufacturers of dynamic driver loudspeakers and of horn loudspeakers have tried to make me offers they hoped I couldn't refuse. I still have only planar dipole loudspeakers.

Big room? Yes. I wish my home listening room were 5 feet wider and 10 feet longer (to get to 25 feet wide and 35 feet long).
Time to branch out, Ron. When many of your favorite systems are horn and none are planar, it should get you thinking that maybe, just maybe you are missing out on your "ultimate" system.
 
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For me personally? As I have never in my entire life owned a loudspeaker that was not a planar dipole it should be obvious that this is not correct.

Manufacturers of dynamic driver loudspeakers and of horn loudspeakers have tried to make me offers they hoped I couldn't refuse. I still have only planar dipole loudspeakers.

Big room? Yes. I wish my home listening room were 5 feet wider and 10 feet longer (to get to 25 feet wide and 35 feet long).
Your room is fine to have the best speakers and amps in there. Size need not be an excuse in your case
 
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Interesting list Ron. Four systems with horn speakers,
His count was zero in 2016, when I asked him to join me to the AG trio factory, and there he did not guage the potential. So that is admirable, it means there is gradual progress even though we don't sense it on a post to post basis, or even thread to thread.

Hail Kaizen

It will be 7/7 before the decade runs out including his own being replaced without need for a bigger room.
 
His count was zero in 2016, when I asked him to join me to the AG trio factory, and there he did not guage the potential. So that is admirable, it means there is gradual progress even though we don't sense it on a post to post basis, or even thread to thread.

Hail Kaizen

It will be 7/7 before the decade runs out including his own being replaced without need for a bigger room.
Nah, he will still cling to his planars...
 
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Time to branch out, Ron. When many of your favorite systems are horn and none are planar, it should get you thinking that maybe, just maybe you are missing out on your "ultimate" system.

Thank you, Brad. I assure you my personal preferences are well understood. :)

I have written many times that if my primary musical genre interest were classical, or were classical plus jazz, I would have a horn loudspeaker system.

For my primary musical genre interest of vocals planar dipoles offer me a sonic presentation which is, for me, a critical "sonic cue" for believability.
 
I guess i have a large room. I would like it to be 8-10 m wide, my speaker system takes up a lot of real estate. :)
Put your speakers on pedestals and fantasize they are small monitors - MOOHAHAHA :D !!
Maybe your room feels bigger… LOL.. !!!
 
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