Sad news. MBL has filed for insolvency.

[wil]

IMO, the like button and emojis have been bad for the forum.

I was going to like this comment, but…

 

[MarkusBarkus]

I would give you a laughing emoji, but...

 

[shakti]

any news on MBL?

 

[bonzo75]

It might be a measure of "high value" to the forum. Alternatively it might just be/also be a measure of the ability of a poster to summon his "tribe" to his side every time he posts.

Analog is superior - like
Horns are superior - like
SETs are superior - like
It is so because I have the most experience - like

And so on.

lol says the one of the three guys so regularly support each others digital posts

 

[bonzo75]

any news on MBL?

Yes they are coming out with MBL turntable, MBL 45 2 watt amp, and MBL dual woofer front loaded horn 103db 8 ohm flat.

Please let’s stick to topic

 

[Another Johnson]

I’ve been slightly obsessed by a record by a new Japanese artist to the recording industry who sings and plays the guitar. It’s something of a concept album and the opening track starts with the sound of him apparently choking to death whilst falling on his guitar. Is it some Japanese ritual I’ve not heard of?

It’s called Harrison Karison.

 

[Al M.]

lol says the one of the three guys so regularly support each others digital posts

Your answers are predictable like clockwork.

At least people who like digital don't feel the need to justify their choice by constantly screaming that their medium is "superior".

And yes, I can predict your answer to this one, too.

 

[bonzo75]

Your answers are predictable like clockwork.

I can see your clock feeling the jitters

 

[andromedaaudio]

 

[andromedaaudio]

Guys can t we be a little bit respectfull towards digital .
Without digital there wouldnt be a forum /WBF possible at all

 

[PeterA]

Your answers are predictable like clockwork.

At least people who like digital don't feel the need to justify their choice by constantly screaming that their medium is "superior".

And yes, I can predict your answer to this one, too.

Al, there may be a couple members on each side who feel digital or analog is the superior medium, but most of the comments are really just personal preferences based on values and experiences. And it seems to me it’s pretty evenly divided.

 

[treitz3]

Well, there is one more camp. Those that enjoy both. But I will agree with you, all 3 camps do seem equally divided. Why the constant debate about pounding chests over one or the other is beyond me. In all honesty, I personally think a proper R2R beats them both. But the debate will unfortunately be continued.

Tom

 

[bonzo75]

Without digital there wouldnt be a forum /WBF possible at all

Yep…every superhero needs a villain

 

[Al M.]

Al, there may be a couple members on each side who feel digital or analog is the superior medium, but most of the comments are really just personal preferences based on values and experiences. And it seems to me it’s pretty evenly divided.

False equivalence, Peter. The chest pounding is mostly on the analog side.

There a few exceptions on the digital side, but those are mostly the "techno babble" digiphiles who poo poo analog for its worse technical measurements (how meaningful these are is debatable). These people pop up on the forum from time to time but usually don't last long, as they find a more natural home on ASR and the like.

 

[wil]

False equivalence, Peter. The chest pounding is mostly on the analog side.

There a few exceptions on the digital side, but those are mostly the "techno babble" digiphiles who poo poo analog for its worse technical measurements (how meaningful these are is debatable). These people pop up on the forum from time to time but usually don't last long, as they find a more natural home on ASR and the like.

I think this is a reasonable and accurate assessment of the dynamic.
And, I “like “ this comment

 

[microstrip]

Well, there is one more camp. Those that enjoy both. But I will agree with you, all 3 camps do seem equally divided. Why the constant debate about pounding chests over one or the other is beyond me.

IMO the debate is natural and will go on. The nature of the formats will dictate many choices and is related to out high-end audio preferences.

In all honesty, I personally think a proper R2R beats them both. But the debate will unfortunately be continued.

Tom

You are opening a very interesting subject. Some vinyl fans have expressed doubts on such opinion on the absolute tape victory and there are good reasons for it. The preference for tape can be a Trojan horse in the vinyl preference. My choice of digital equipment was strongly influenced by listening to master tapes in a standard Studer A80.

 

[treitz3]

IMO the debate is natural and will go on. The nature of the formats will dictate many choices and is related to out high-end audio preferences.

Here's my thing. Why does there have to be a clear winner? Why can't folks simply enjoy both for what they have to offer? Honestly, both have their own set of attributes, as well as deficiencies. IMO, there is no need to constantly debate them....as there will never be a clear winner. Especially when you factor in gear, advances and personal preference. That's all I am saying.

Tom

 

[microstrip]

Here's my thing. Why does there have to be a clear winner? Why can't folks simply enjoy both for what they have to offer? Honestly, both have their own set of attributes, as well as deficiencies. IMO, there is no need to constantly debate them....as there will never be a clear winner. Especially when you factor in gear, advances and personal preference. That's all I am saying.

Tom

We fully agree that there is no clear winner - I have told it many times and why. But debating in depth the characteristics inherent to each format is extremely interesting.

 

[treitz3]

Not when it constantly derails threads like this though. None of this has to do with MBL filing for insolvency. That is the topic here, yet this unwinnable debate seems to be a constant interruption on this, as well as many other threads. Even though we currently have a dedicated thread about, "Why, oh why, does vinyl continue to blow away digital? ". Other threads on this debate have been closed over the years because it always seems to end in arguments and personal insults.

It gets old.

Tom

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[microstrip]

Not when it constantly derails threads like this though. None of this has to do with MBL filing for insolvency. That is the topic here, yet this unwinnable debate seems to be a constant interruption on this, as well as many other threads. Even though we currently have a dedicated thread about, "Why, oh why, does vinyl continue to blow away digital? "

Surely - but the question was triggered by the fact MBL leans toward digital in terms of in-house innovation and design focus. And even you could not resist to add a new point on this subject!

Other threads on this debate have been closed over the years because it always seems to end in arguments and personal insults. (...)

It would be nice if you could re-open the dCS Varese thread ...