Some Eye Candy for Extreme Owners who like to use their Smartphone to control their Extreme
Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
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Steve Williams
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Now you’re killing me. The wait is not good for all of us
Steve Williams
Site Founder, Site Owner, Administrator
Ed
will the user be able to control the player progress bar so that we can fast forward to a piece of the song by using a finger to move the bar
will the user be able to control the player progress bar so that we can fast forward to a piece of the song by using a finger to move the bar
This is on the list of functionalties
Nice!
I take this opportunity to ask you a question about XDMS features.
I'm Roon user.
The main reason I chose to use Roon is classical music.
Roon is able to recognise (I don't tag the files myself) an album containing several compositions by different composers and arrange them in a consistent way.
Everything is automatically tagged with :
- Composer
- Composition
- Movements
- Ensemble
- Soloist
- etc.
And the coolest thing is that it is able to recognise the same composition from the same composer across the entire library.
I especially like the latter feature.
I can, for instance, compare different interpretations of the first movement of Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 35.
A click shows them all.
Will XDMS be capable of something similar?
Uh oh, that may be alot to ask.
Personally I am just hoping to see the file resolution on the primary screen when streaming instead of TAS always showing "750kbps, FLC" until I click through "More Info" to find the album's resolution etc.
Rest is gravy for me given the SQ boost. I imagine additional features may be rolled out over time so XDMS can be released sooner than later. Above specific request aside, I definitely would prefer a simpler initial offering than waiting for a software that includes everyone’s wishlist.
So many requests, expectations and pressure have already been applied. Release the beast (waiver signed)...
Personally I am just hoping to see the file resolution on the primary screen when streaming instead of TAS always showing "750kbps, FLC" until I click through "More Info" to find the album's resolution etc.
Rest is gravy for me given the SQ boost. I imagine additional features may be rolled out over time so XDMS can be released sooner than later. Above specific request aside, I definitely would prefer a simpler initial offering than waiting for a software that includes everyone’s wishlist.
So many requests, expectations and pressure have already been applied. Release the beast (waiver signed)...
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You can still use Roon to find the pieces, then XDMS to play them (should this functionality not be present In XDMS).Nice!
I take this opportunity to ask you a question about XDMS features.
I'm Roon user.
The main reason I chose to use Roon is classical music.
Roon is able to recognise (I don't tag the files myself) an album containing several compositions by different composers and arrange them in a consistent way.
Everything is automatically tagged with :
- Composer
- Composition
- Movements
- Ensemble
- Soloist
- etc.
And the coolest thing is that it is able to recognise the same composition from the same composer across the entire library.
I especially like the latter feature.
I can, for instance, compare different interpretations of the first movement of Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 35.
A click shows them all.
Will XDMS be capable of something similar?
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I actually use Roon on a Nucleus server for the rest of the house, but it isn't involved with my main system at all. But, I often will run it parallel with TAS just to get this exact alternative performance info. A tad annoying, yes, but I get the best SQ available to me now, and still get the knowledge base for navigating. And my wife loves Roon for the Kitchen, Living Room, and Porch systems and devices.
Christiaan Punter
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As a big fan of Oyaide C-004, I can testify to this! While there will be those who favor the sound of the Furutech and those who prefer the Oyaide 004, there's no denying that there is a large sonic difference between them. And this can be heard with every component that I tried so far. Have to confess that I was unaware that there was an 004 in the Taiko but glad to know now!
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Christiaan Punter
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Filetype, bit depth, and sample rate are also, as Ed puts it, on the list of functionalities
Christiaan Punter
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On the roadmap is identifying local music files using external database services so that we don't need to rely solely on embedded tags. This should go a long way toward organizing the library and making it search-friendly. Roon-like deep-linking functionality might be a possibility later but it is not on the radar right now. ATM, we're focusing on getting the core functionality ready for release.Nice!
I take this opportunity to ask you a question about XDMS features.
I'm Roon user.
The main reason I chose to use Roon is classical music.
Roon is able to recognise (I don't tag the files myself) an album containing several compositions by different composers and arrange them in a consistent way.
Everything is automatically tagged with :
- Composer
- Composition
- Movements
- Ensemble
- Soloist
- etc.
And the coolest thing is that it is able to recognise the same composition from the same composer across the entire library.
I especially like the latter feature.
I can, for instance, compare different interpretations of the first movement of Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 35.
A click shows them all.
Will XDMS be capable of something similar?
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Christiaan Punter
Well-Known Member
Did you already fix the functional scope definition for the first release candidate of XDMS and is this something you could share with us?
Christiaan Punter
Well-Known Member
We have a very detailed roadmap and a clear definition of what we want. At this time, I cannot get into the specifics but as we go along, bits will be revealed, as Ed has been doing all along.
Christiaan Punter
Well-Known Member
Here is an update on my experiences with the Taiko Extreme in my system. First, it was set straight on the Artesania rack's Beechwood couplers that are on the Linear Carbon Fiber Arms. The position of these arms can be adjusted wider and narrower while the couplers themselves can also be positioned farther from and closer to each other. I have done some experiments with this and will relay the sonic differences.
First, a little theory
When it comes to the coupling of an audio component to the rack or other furniture, one of the predictable outcomes in audio as I have come to know them, is that equipment tends to sound tighter, more incisive, more articulate, and more precise, the more rigid the support. If the carrier has a tendency to bend, the sound will become rounder, smoother, and more relaxed. For any system and to all ears, there will be a different ideal point between these two extremes but the nice aspect of knowing this is that it can be applied with Artesania Exoteryc racks, as well as the old Finite Elemente Spider racks, and even when placing individual aftermarket feet under a component.
While there are also factors relating to power supplies and reader mechanisms, in general, one should take note of the component's own rigidity in comparison to that of the support. When the bottom plate is more solid than the support level of the rack on which the component is placed, then the placement of the feet relative to the rack's sides becomes more important than where they are underneath the component. This is because the rack's level will bend less easily when force is applied closer to its sides.
With the Artesania
The Exoteryc rack may appear to be very solid, and it is, but its levels will bend a little when confronted with the Extreme's 45KGs. When initially placing the Extreme on the rack, the Artesania feet were positioned such that they fit in between most components' own feet. Set up this way, the Extreme sounds great, as described earlier, but I did notice a tendency to sound a little slow and too calm at times. I knew this was due to the rack's feet but before moving them, I wanted to do another experiment.
Adding a platform
So far, I had bypassed the Extreme's own aluminum/Tigerwood feet. What if I inserted a platform between the Artesania's Beechwood feet and the Extreme? I only had a double-MDF board available. Nothing fancy, but it has worked quite well on many occasions. The constrained two layers prevent bending although the characteristic MDF tonality is sometimes still audible. As it was this time. Sure, the Taiko now sounded more forceful but also unnaturally colored, and still arguably a little slow at times.
Repositioning the Artesania feet and linear arms
Besides widening the linear arms, I also opted to move the front two feet one position to the rear side. At the outermost position, the front two feet are supported only on one side. Any other position on the linear arms is supported on both ends. And with the Extreme's 45 KGs, this really makes a difference.
With the feet widened, there was a MASSIVE increase in bass control and articulation, as well as in terms of the incisiveness and overall dynamic impact. But still, I heard a thickness and coloration in the upper bass, no doubt, induced by the platform.
Indeed, with the platform removed, the coloration was gone while all the aforementioned advantages remained. I'm sure I will gather more experience and of course, the Exoteryc rack is not the only great solution, but I can say with certainty that I have not heard better server performance in my system, ever. Every friend who has visited has been deeply impressed with the Extreme's performance.
On the matter of TAS versus Roon
As this thread has already neatly illustrated, this is very much a personal matter. To my ears, and in this system, Roon provides the lushest and most organic presentation while TAS provides the tightest and most expressive presentation and I must say that both have their inherent allure. Personally, I favor the more physical TAS presentation. Some might find it relatively dry or technical compared to Roon but I personally feel that Roon is just a little round. YMMV.
XDMS
Emile tells me that XDMS will offer the benefits of both Roon and TAS. The organic free-flowing lushness of Roon with the clarity and expression of TAS. Like all of you, I can't wait!
First, a little theory
When it comes to the coupling of an audio component to the rack or other furniture, one of the predictable outcomes in audio as I have come to know them, is that equipment tends to sound tighter, more incisive, more articulate, and more precise, the more rigid the support. If the carrier has a tendency to bend, the sound will become rounder, smoother, and more relaxed. For any system and to all ears, there will be a different ideal point between these two extremes but the nice aspect of knowing this is that it can be applied with Artesania Exoteryc racks, as well as the old Finite Elemente Spider racks, and even when placing individual aftermarket feet under a component.
While there are also factors relating to power supplies and reader mechanisms, in general, one should take note of the component's own rigidity in comparison to that of the support. When the bottom plate is more solid than the support level of the rack on which the component is placed, then the placement of the feet relative to the rack's sides becomes more important than where they are underneath the component. This is because the rack's level will bend less easily when force is applied closer to its sides.
With the Artesania
The Exoteryc rack may appear to be very solid, and it is, but its levels will bend a little when confronted with the Extreme's 45KGs. When initially placing the Extreme on the rack, the Artesania feet were positioned such that they fit in between most components' own feet. Set up this way, the Extreme sounds great, as described earlier, but I did notice a tendency to sound a little slow and too calm at times. I knew this was due to the rack's feet but before moving them, I wanted to do another experiment.
Adding a platform
So far, I had bypassed the Extreme's own aluminum/Tigerwood feet. What if I inserted a platform between the Artesania's Beechwood feet and the Extreme? I only had a double-MDF board available. Nothing fancy, but it has worked quite well on many occasions. The constrained two layers prevent bending although the characteristic MDF tonality is sometimes still audible. As it was this time. Sure, the Taiko now sounded more forceful but also unnaturally colored, and still arguably a little slow at times.
Repositioning the Artesania feet and linear arms
Besides widening the linear arms, I also opted to move the front two feet one position to the rear side. At the outermost position, the front two feet are supported only on one side. Any other position on the linear arms is supported on both ends. And with the Extreme's 45 KGs, this really makes a difference.
With the feet widened, there was a MASSIVE increase in bass control and articulation, as well as in terms of the incisiveness and overall dynamic impact. But still, I heard a thickness and coloration in the upper bass, no doubt, induced by the platform.
Indeed, with the platform removed, the coloration was gone while all the aforementioned advantages remained. I'm sure I will gather more experience and of course, the Exoteryc rack is not the only great solution, but I can say with certainty that I have not heard better server performance in my system, ever. Every friend who has visited has been deeply impressed with the Extreme's performance.
On the matter of TAS versus Roon
As this thread has already neatly illustrated, this is very much a personal matter. To my ears, and in this system, Roon provides the lushest and most organic presentation while TAS provides the tightest and most expressive presentation and I must say that both have their inherent allure. Personally, I favor the more physical TAS presentation. Some might find it relatively dry or technical compared to Roon but I personally feel that Roon is just a little round. YMMV.
XDMS
Emile tells me that XDMS will offer the benefits of both Roon and TAS. The organic free-flowing lushness of Roon with the clarity and expression of TAS. Like all of you, I can't wait!
1001% agree. I'm probably at the far end of the spectrum that just wants it sound great, look great, have a streamlined functionality and be rock stable. I don't need another Roon and all it's complex options. -- but I know there is pressure to do so.
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