The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away

[57Uli]

Hello everyone.

Yesterday I've been able to finally listen to Schernzinger in my system and here is my (very fresh) experience so far.

I have inserted (i) the Power Grid with the Schuko Plug on a dedicated power line and the transformer on the other power line and (ii) the Piccolo on the general power line.

The PG is placed behind the speakers on top of a DAAD Halifax resonator (https://acusticaapplicata.com/en/product/halifax/) at about 1m height. The volume of the PG is set to 1-1-1.

The Piccolo is composed of four elements with the Master unit next to the PG (behind the speakers over the DAAD Halifax at about 1m height). The other elements are placed, respectively, above the listening point (on top of an absorbing panel at about 120 cm from the ground) and at the sides of the listening point (approx. at the height of the tweeters) at about 150 cm height. The Piccolo is set to volume 2

Very happy so far! Big SQ improvement, especially in terms of microdynamics and air. Mid frequencies are super textured and sweet and the bass is controlled but deep at the same time. All of this while maintaining perfect tonal coherence.

I am now waiting to try EMI and MG.

The only thing that kind of worries me is the headache that I had yesterday night and which I still have. Maybe it is just tiredness but I've had a bad experience in the past when I introduced a second pair of Stein Harmonizers to the rear sides of my listening room so much so that I returned the second pair to the dealer, keeping only two elements on the rear bookshelf at almost zero volume. Should I be worried about this? Any experience?

Thanks,
Franco

Don't worry. With the GIGA CANCELING technology, a negative effect on the human body is not possible due to the system.

Stein Harmonizers insert certain energies into the room that interact with the energies already present. Of course, the goal is to achieve a sonic improvement as an overall result. However, there may also be a deterioration. It is possible that people feel this effect, in a positive or negative way.

Schnerzinger GIGA CANCELING technology works in a completely different way. It determines the radiation present in the room and reduces it in a targeted manner. In any case, this reduces the interference radiation in the room. Negative consequences on the human body are not possible. Conversely, there are people who physically perceive the positive consequences of the lower interference field exposure and, for example, can sleep better.

Schnerzinger offers an interesting article on this topic on its website under FAQ, category Protectors, fourth item "What differentiates SCHNERZINGER GIGA CANCELING interfering fields elimination from atmospheric, energetically informed electrosmog products?"

 

[57Uli]

Im still waiting on delivery of my Multi Guards.but it is refreshing to read other members' experiences as it serves to corroborate that we parents all drinking the Kool Aid. I find as in the post above, that I cannot be without these devices in my room.

Small note: When you receive the MULTI GUARDS, the overall GRID + MULTI GUARD system is significantly more powerful than the individual GRID. Therefore, it can be advantageous to correct the originally selected switch setting of the GRID downwards. Just try it out!

 

[Frankie67]

Don't worry. With the GIGA CANCELING technology, a negative effect on the human body is not possible due to the system.

Stein Harmonizers insert certain energies into the room that interact with the energies already present. Of course, the goal is to achieve a sonic improvement as an overall result. However, there may also be a deterioration. It is possible that people feel this effect, in a positive or negative way.

Schnerzinger GIGA CANCELING technology works in a completely different way. It determines the radiation present in the room and reduces it in a targeted manner. In any case, this reduces the interference radiation in the room. Negative consequences on the human body are not possible. Conversely, there are people who physically perceive the positive consequences of the lower interference field exposure and, for example, can sleep better.

Schnerzinger offers an interesting article on this topic on its website under FAQ, category Protectors, fourth item "What differentiates SCHNERZINGER GIGA CANCELING interfering fields elimination from atmospheric, energetically informed electrosmog products?"

Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Schernzinger may interact in my audio room with the Stein Harmonizers and that this could create some adverse effect?

 

[Frankie67]

Small note: When you receive the MULTI GUARDS, the overall GRID + MULTI GUARD system is significantly more powerful than the individual GRID. Therefore, it can be advantageous to correct the originally selected switch setting of the GRID downwards. Just try it out!

For sure, I will try both the EMI and the Multi Guards.

 

[Steve Williams]

Small note: When you receive the MULTI GUARDS, the overall GRID + MULTI GUARD system is significantly more powerful than the individual GRID. Therefore, it can be advantageous to correct the originally selected switch setting of the GRID downwards. Just try it out!

thanks for the tip. I must admit that I have both the Grid and EMI protectors set at position ll

 

[Steve Williams]

Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Schernzinger may interact in my audio room with the Stein Harmonizers and that this could create some adverse effect?

Im no expert but honestly I would use one or the other....not both. I have no clue how or why Schnerzinger does what it does but it has made my system so much more enjoyable that Im looking now for the delivery of the Multiguards

 

[Frankie67]

Im no expert but honestly I would use one or the other....not both. I have no clue how or why Schnerzinger does what it does but it has made my system so much more enjoyable that Im looking now for the delivery of the Multiguards

I have taken the Stein out of the room and we'll see how it goes.

 

[Steve Williams]

I have taken the Stein out of the room and we'll see how it goes.

Im not at all familiar with the Stein . I can only attest to what I ma hearing with Schnerzinger. I was afraid to start this thread as I expected to be accused of drinking the Kool Aid. It wasn't until several naysayers in this thread reached out and began using the product and virtually echoes all of my findings. I don't think we are all nuts

 

[Frankie67]

Im not at all familiar with the Stein . I can only attest to what I ma hearing with Schnerzinger. I was afraid to start this thread as I expected to be accused of drinking the Kool Aid. It wasn't until several naysayers in this thread reached out and began using the product and virtually echoes all of my findings. I don't think we are all nuts.

Just a bit nuts ahahah

 

[Jazzjunkie]

Don't worry. With the GIGA CANCELING technology, a negative effect on the human body is not possible due to the system.

Yes, all similar focused but differently acting manufacturers using quantum technology, informed material or other resonance/anti-resonance generators (which Schnerzinger all doesn’t use), fight typical noise of an assumed bandwidth and amplitude by applying fix overlaying or counter signals/ resonances.

Schnerzinger gear as I understand it, not only first determines the unwanted noise in frequency spot and amplitude and cancels it only to that exact extent (and not just „somehow, too much or too little“), it also does this by catching the noise with the antennas and eliminating it within their protector‘s control unit. This means they don’t eliminate it by counter signals into the room, equipment or cirquit. The result of both of this is, that only and exactly the existing noise gets cancelled and no additional energy is given into the room (and persons there).

The aforementioned technologies of others in contrary apply assumed counter measures (resonances, counter signals), independent of the individual situation in a room or equipment, into the room or equipment. In case of the room this can mean, that an assumed noise signal is under- or overcompensated. In case of an overcompensation this can probably mean, that also sensible human organisms react to it. Not so with the Schnerzinger Giga cancelling tech.

As several manufacturers deal with several well known noise or other harmful or beneficial frequencies (various known HF noise, the Schumann frequency and others) in a general and not individually and exactly determined way, this can mean, that those of us who use similar such measures of various manufacturers, overcompensate certain frequencies multiple times, which can at the end lead to mainly negative side effects or at least not really focused effects as intended.

So imo the main thing to keep in mind in terms of Schnerzinger is, that their equipment is treating the exact situation in one’s room and equipment, not an assumed situation in the same way for every customer.

I think this also makes clear why several of those measures of various manufacturers (in case the „assumed“ measures roughly match one’s situation) can have a similar positive impact in a first impression compared to no measures before.
Schnerzinger at the end convinces because due to the way of operation described above, it has the most positive effect (because it detects the existing situation) and especially no negative side effects by over-/underconpensation. In case of the grid protector, the amount of avoided negative side effects which in contrary a conditioner/filter has, is even bigger. One recognizes all of this intensively, the more consistently the Schnerzinger concept is implemented.

 

[dbeau]

Yes, all similar focused but differently acting manufacturers using quantum technology, informed material or other resonance/anti-resonance generators (which Schnerzinger all doesn’t use), fight typical noise of an assumed bandwidth and amplitude by applying fix overlaying or counter signals/ resonances.

Schnerzinger gear as I understand it, not only first determines the unwanted noise in frequency spot and amplitude and cancels it only to that exact extent (and not just „somehow, too much or too little“), it also does this by catching the noise with the antennas and eliminating it within their protector‘s control unit. This means they don’t eliminate it by counter signals into the room, equipment or cirquit. The result of both of this is, that only and exactly the existing noise gets cancelled and no additional energy is given into the room (and persons there).

The aforementioned technologies of others in contrary apply assumed counter measures (resonances, counter signals), independent of the individual situation in a room or equipment, into the room or equipment. In case of the room this can mean, that an assumed noise signal is under- or overcompensated. In case of an overcompensation this can probably mean, that also sensible human organisms react to it. Not so with the Schnerzinger Giga cancelling tech.

As several manufacturers deal with several well known noise or other harmful or beneficial frequencies (various known HF noise, the Schumann frequency and others) in a general and not individually and exactly determined way, this can mean, that those of us who use similar such measures of various manufacturers, overcompensate certain frequencies multiple times, which can at the end lead to mainly negative side effects or at least not really focused effects as intended.

So imo the main thing to keep in mind in terms of Schnerzinger is, that their equipment is treating the exact situation in one’s room and equipment, not an assumed situation in the same way for every customer.

I think this also makes clear why several of those measures of various manufacturers (in case the „assumed“ measures roughly match one’s situation) can have a similar positive impact in a first impression compared to no measures before.
Schnerzinger at the end convinces because due to the way of operation described above, it has the most positive effect (because it detects the existing situation) and especially no negative side effects by over-/underconpensation. In case of the grid protector, the amount of avoided negative side effects which in contrary a conditioner/filter has, is even bigger. One recognizes all of this intensively, the more consistently the Schnerzinger concept is implemented.

If what you say is true and verified by Schnerzinger I'm in, but I do not know if that if they have claimed to determine the exact problem frequencies and 'absorb' same to solve the interference. I am not criticizing you and hope that you are correct, but ?

 

[Jazzjunkie]

If what you say is true and verified by Schnerzinger I'm in, but I do not know if that if they have claimed to determine the exact problem frequencies and 'absorb' same to solve the interference. I am not criticizing you and hope that you are correct, but ?

Yes, they have a way to act on the exact problem frequencies and amplitudes only. That’s imo one of the main selling points of their latest Giga Cancelling Technology and possibly a bit hidden in the technical explanations or FAQ. They very well know the „other“ technologies and experimented with them several years before it since some time is present in high end business. They really seem to lead this whole field of measures by miles. Just ask them or their distributors or dealers in the know.

 

[aangen]

The more well known Snake Oil company, Synergistic Research, bothers me. I want to not like them. But the German Snake Oil company, Schnerzinger, I wish to like. And I do. I fear a Tasmanian company will suddenly appear. I wish to stay with ze Germans.

 

[dbeau]

Yes, they have a way to act on the exact problem frequencies and amplitudes only. That’s imo one of the main selling points of their latest Giga Cancelling Technology and possibly a bit hidden in the technical explanations or FAQ. They very well know the „other“ technologies and experimented with them several years before it since some time is present in high end business. They really seem to lead this whole field of measures by miles. Just ask them or their distributors or dealers in the know.

I have sent a message to Gideon Schwartz, listed as the only USA dealer. Thanks for your response

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...so the devices would need to monitor various frequencies, at changing amplitudes, and absorb them? Presumably transforming these waves into something not offensive to people and audio gear?

In this model, the components continue to emit the waves, but they aren't (as) destructive, because they are "absorbed" by the devices. Is that what you mean to describe @Jazzjunkie ?

 

[Frankie67]

I just realized that I also have a couple Schumann resonators in my room which I placed may years ago. Could they possibly interfere with the Schnerzinger products?

 

[57Uli]

I just realized that I also have a couple Schumann resonators in my room which I placed may years ago. Could they possibly interfere with the Schnerzinger products?

I have no experience with it, neither with the Stein Harmonizer nor the Schumann Resonator. I use Schnerzinger with the best success. I suspect that the simultaneous use of other and less targeted technologies does not bring any advantage and may be rather disadvantageous.

 

[Jazzjunkie]

I just realized that I also have a couple Schumann resonators in my room which I placed may years ago. Could they possibly interfere with the Schnerzinger products?

It’s not that they interfere with Schnerzinger, as Schnerzinger only cancels what’s present.
But other devices interfere with each other in case you mix them or install too many related to the purpose, as other devices usually compensate frequencies in a fixed way. So (example) if you have 5 different other devices which compensate (by resonating crystals or other generators) assumed cell phone frequencies by 5dB, you probably overcompensate what’s present in fact. Such a dip, although in a frequency above the audible range, as we know meanwhile, can also have effects in the audible range.
A Schnerzinger device would recognize that there’s nothing to cancel at the cell phone frequency (because it’s already overcompensated) and do nothing there.

 

[Jazzjunkie]

...so the devices would need to monitor various frequencies, at changing amplitudes, and absorb them? Presumably transforming these waves into something not offensive to people and audio gear?

In this model, the components continue to emit the waves, but they aren't (as) destructive, because they are "absorbed" by the devices. Is that what you mean to describe @Jazzjunkie ?

No, simplified spoken in my own words: the Schnerzinger devices suck the unwanted frequencies with their antennas into the devices and cancel them there inside. Nothing is sent out by them, they don’t put counter energy into the room or gear. A big difference in terms of avoiding unwanted side effects.

 

[Frankie67]

It’s not that they interfere with Schnerzinger, as Schnerzinger only cancels what’s present.
But other devices interfere with each other in case you mix them or install too many related to the purpose, as other devices usually compensate frequencies in a fixed way. So (example) if you have 5 different other devices which compensate (by resonating crystals or other generators) assumed cell phone frequencies by 5dB, you probably overcompensate what’s present in fact. Such a dip, although in a frequency above the audible range, as we know meanwhile, can also have effects in the audible range.
A Schnerzinger device would recognize that there’s nothing to cancel at the cell phone frequency (because it’s already overcompensated) and do nothing there.

So you're saying that the Schumann resonators could remain? Sorry I'm confused.