The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away

[Jazzjunkie]

Improving my system is SO NOT my primary focus. Listening to music is.

That’s the right approach definitely!
Although we all are aware that folks with setups like yours, had and probably will have „improvement phases“ and switching of gear and accessories more regularly than we all use to admit. And I guess we all declared the end of the improvement focus multiple times in the past already ;-)

I don’t doubt your described experiences at all. In a mixed environment, this and that sounds more or less better here and there and such setups reached a level one can more than live with for a very long time.

What’s important to point out from my experience is, that the great effects of the Schnerzinger Giga Cancelling devices in various setups set aside - the Atomic Bonding cabling, wall wart, fuse, distributor topic needs a special awareness to keep in mind.

From my experience I’m convinced their conductivity and the measure to block the exchange of noise between components (resulting in speed of impulse processing and resolution) and their bass control and correct timing is way above everything else on the market. That’s what one hears by a smaller or bigger improvement when putting one or two parts of those products into the chain. Other parts in such a mixed (products) chain may still have their indispensable effect.
When one sets the Schnerzinger level of conductivity and noise exchange protection throughout the whole cabling signal path, things change dramatically in terms of resolution, air, realism and further characteristics named. If after that, one places any cabling or conditioner or anything not on that level inbetween, the sound quality reduction gets extremely obvious if not insane. What I want to say is, as good as single Schnerzinger measures are, you only know the full Schnerzinger potential and the limitations of other brands products used in a chain, after you once dared to listen to a complete Atomic Bonding connection level in your setup and from there try to go back to single previous products used. It's like the question of whether to improve the flow of a section of the water pipe in the house or the entire pipe network. Power distributors, conditioners etc. are included in this example. But as always one should better just listen to this if one’s ready for a change, otherwise it’s hard to go back.

 

[Steve williams]

haven't tried the EMI Protector or the other products yet. Improving my system is SO NOT my primary focus. Listening to music is.
This just means there are more fun options in the future. Bonus!

I have been down so many rabbit holes in my audio journey and have always found my way back to the top, but I can say that the descent into this hole has reaped such unexpected rewards. As Jazzjunkie states so well, exploring the entire Schnerzinger line is a tempting thought as the rewards just seem to always be there. If there is a downside, one could say that the cost of exploring such is tantamount to buying a whole new system. For someone stating their journey this is IMO a product line that could be added piecemeal along the course of that journey. These are truly system changers. I have read explanations as to how they work but I am just a lowly retired OBG and really have given it up to a higher power. I love what they have done for my system. My Multiguards finally arrive next week but my speakers are gone until a loaner set of Plural Evos arrive end of this month

 

[RdW]

I see you have a Multiguard in your Allocator. That was my plan as well

Works very well! Scherzinger recommends

MULTI GUARD PHASE
Using/trying out in the following order has proven effective:
1. GRID PROTECTOR not available:
at the first slot of the HiFi power strip, if necessary a second at the last slot.
2. GRID PROTECTOR available:
Slot of the HiFi power strip (e.g. last slot).
3. Try additional MULTI GUARD PHASE:
in sockets of the same phase (as the HiFi system) in the HiFi room
in sockets of a different phase (as the HiFi system) in the HiFi room
in sockets of the same phase (as the HiFi system) in other rooms near electrical devices
(in the office at the computer, at the refrigerator or stove, at the router)
in sockets of a different phase (as the HiFi system) in other rooms near electrical devices.

 

[RdW]

I’ll report back after the anticipated unveiling in Munich ‘25. But these new products are additions to the line; not meant to replace any current products. Stay tuned!

the Giga Protector will have a “successor”. According to Michael a bigger device with a different approach.

 

[Steve williams]

the Giga Protector will have a “successor”. According to Michael a bigger device with a different approach.

The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away

a Gigi Protector (new version will come to the market btw according to Scherzinger), Do you mean the Grid Protector or is this a different device?

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[57Uli]

the Giga Protector will have a “successor”. According to Michael a bigger device with a different approach.

If I remember correctly, the GIGA protector was the second Schnerzinger GIGA CANCELING product after the CLEANER and the first for the room (EMI and Piccolo did not yet exist). The GIGA protector consisted of two devices, each with 13 switches and large antennas, which were intended to suppress interference from the entire listening room and were usually positioned in opposite corners of the room. The manual is still available on the website, the product was sold until 2022. By the way, the GIGA protector is still part of the video, which explains the Schnerzinger GIGA CANCELING technology on the website.

I first saw the GIGA Protector in Munich in 2014.

I remember the High-End 2014 in Munich particularly well, because I visited the fair for the first time together with my current wife. At the Zellaton booth we met Manuel Podszus (Speaker Developer and Co-Manager Zellaton) and Michael Schwab (Sales). I will never forget how enthusiastic and proud they were. They couldn't believe how great their products sounded at the show. The then still quite new cooperation with Schnerzinger had raised their trade fair demonstration to a level that had not previously been thought possible. This joy of the two men was such a beautiful and impressive experience, I cannot forget their almost childlike happiness. We had been happy with them.

Later the portfolio for in-room interference suppression was expanded. In addition to the GIGA protector for the entire room, there was first the EMI for near field area and then the Piccolo for the targeted interference suppression of critical interference field peaks. Around 2020 or 2021, the Multi Guards offered an effective and comprehensive ROOM SHIELD by coupling in the room. Perhaps this is the reason why the GIGA Protector was taken out of the program in 2022.

I am excited about the presentation of the successor.

Schnerzinger is tremendously creative. If there really is a new product, then this will also bring clear progress. So far, no Schnerzinger recommendation had disappointed me.

 

[jasond]

The EMI protector has already a reach of 3-4 meters if I am right?

 

[RdW]

I have been down so many rabbit holes in my audio journey and have always found my way back to the top, but I can say that the descent into this hole has reaped such unexpected rewards. As Jazzjunkie states so well, exploring the entire Schnerzinger line is a tempting thought as the rewards just seem to always be there. If there is a downside, one could say that the cost of exploring such is tantamount to buying a whole new system. For someone stating their journey this is IMO a product line that could be added piecemeal along the course of that journey. These are truly system changers. I have read explanations as to how they work but I am just a lowly retired OBG and really have given it up to a higher power. I love what they have done for my system. My Multiguards finally arrive next week but my speakers are gone until a loaner set of Plural Evos arrive end of this month

And only one Steve Williams / oneobgyn system. Fantastic set-up by the way.

 

[57Uli]

The EMI protector has already a reach of 3-4 meters if I am right?

EMI 3m, Piccolo 0.5m (info from the Schnerzinger website).
GIGA protector 7m (info from the former website)

 

[jasond]

One question that is not completely clear from the Grid protector manual: when setting power switch apart from 0, so for 1 or 2, then always the additional power supply is needed? Or this it work in 1 or 2 also without it in a lesser extend ?

 

[aangen]

One question that is not completely clear from the Grid protector manual: when setting power switch apart from 0, so for 1 or 2, then always the additional power supply is needed? Or this it work in 1 or 2 also without it in a lesser extend ?

Without the DC power 1 and 2 do nothing.

 

[57Uli]

One question that is not completely clear from the Grid protector manual: when setting power switch apart from 0, so for 1 or 2, then always the additional power supply is needed? Or this it work in 1 or 2 also without it in a lesser extend ?

See manual "5. Increase in performance (switch POWER)" under "Setting up step by step".

Quote "But if the base setting is not sufficient for the present interference field spectrum, the permanent connection of the 12V power supply to the grid is required." ("base setting" means the position 0 of the POWER switch.)

In this context, it is clear: As soon as the POWER switch is set to I or II, the 12V power connection must be used.

I suspect that this is due to the increased power requirements in positions I and II. Whether the performance of the GRID will drop immediately or only after a few seconds or minutes, I have not tried and will not do so.