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[ashandger]

Both have similar transparency and low level detail,Divin for high efficiency and very high quality driver and tweeter,sound is very transparent and come out easily from speaker for high efficiency and listen easily every detail,Aeon Reference has flat driver from 160 to 31.000 hz,with lot of quality,transparency and full of detail
If you listen pop and rock music or synphonic orchestra could be Divin little better,if you listen voice,choir,chamber music,jazz,could be Aeon little better,
If you listen everything,you have to buy both

Many thanks for the great feedback.

 

[howiebrou]

Both have similar transparency and low level detail,Divin for high efficiency and very high quality driver and tweeter,sound is very transparent and come out easily from speaker for high efficiency and listen easily every detail,Aeon Reference has flat driver from 160 to 31.000 hz,with lot of quality,transparency and full of detail
If you listen pop and rock music or synphonic orchestra could be Divin little better,if you listen voice,choir,chamber music,jazz,could be Aeon little better,
If you listen everything,you have to buy both

Thanks for the write up Gian. I have not listened to those two speakers only the bigger brother Divin Majestic. I could certainly consider the Noblesse sometime in my future.

 

[Oliver Göbel]

I listen in Munich for 2 years Epoque Reference,old model, 3 and 4 years ago and this year Divin Noblesse with Engstrom.
I liked a lot but didn't understood very well his sound like other big systems in Munich,for room,noise,song i don't know,amp,ecc,ecc
To understand you need to listen at home or in some shop of friends.

So was very exciting to listen with incredible combination with my CH and my rack.

Starting with Aeon Reference.
I was more excited to listen this because Divin series is fantastic,but is a normal speaker,even if has the technology of Bending Wave,that is their core technology produced in house,while the Aeon Reference has one carbon Bending Wave driver that is completely manufactured in house,starting from laminating the membrane,pressing under vacuum,complete mounting of the motor assembly,ecc,ecc.
I always liked one way speaker for his natural sound,even with his problems,so was exciting to listen this driver because start from 160 hz to 31.000 hz with 12 woofers ,small but very fast.
Oliver put 2/3 songs i didn't know so i kept the Ipad from Oliver's hand and start to find and to listen song i know and some i use in my system like reference song.

I was really shocked for the quality,sound was very homogeneous and fast.Driver very transparent and very natural,very big scene because this driver has a 180 degree of dispersion,with simple music very natural and also with big orchestra jazz and classic music all instrument big and separated and in Missa Criola the choir was very deep and very natural voice.
Bass was very fast and deep
We listen this speaker alone and then Oliver add the sub Before Petite with his crossover,cut at 45 hz.
Another shock.
Small sub has 8 9" woofer with 8 amp of 250 watt each,one for woofer.

I listen many times Klipshorn and some Basshorn from ALE in at least 2 system,Bass from big horn like Yamamura Dionisio,i had Krell Master Reference,fantastic sub,and i had for 4 years Sound Lab mono B1,electrostatic sub cut at 100 hz and driven by ML 20 bridge,400 watt,sub large 1.20 mt and high 2.20 mt each,cut at 100 hz with ML LNC 2 mono,so some good bass i listen in my life,but never listen as good like this.
Very fast,full and very deep,and don't dirty the bass and mid bass of the Aeon.I cannot image 2 of this,or the bigger,double than this.

This sub will be fantastic in all others system and can be sold separately .
Fantastic also the Aeon Before Controller,a crossover completely analog,where can select,the volume,cut,phases,ecc,ecc

After dinner we listened from 21.40 to 24 the Divin Noblesse.
I was happy to listen,but already satisfied with Aeon and his fantastic driver,so less interest than before,but when put some song i know i listen immedialty another incredible speaker.
With his 95 db efficiency sound exit very fast and easily from speaker,bass and mid bass full,deep and natural and tweeter with big pressure and very very transparent.
Seems to listen an horn speaker without the problems of horn speaker.

Mr. Pozzi of Audiograffiti was also shocked because never listen a better speaker in his life.
He was first distributor in Italy of Avalon and Magico,so listen all the top models,he sold 2 Wilson Alexandria,and many big speaker in his life but never listen this quality.

He is thinking to become Italian distributor,but problem in Italy there are big crisis since some years and is very difficult to sell this speaker with the price list of 195.000 euro,even if he tried also Gobel cable with top Mit cable he has,is European distributor of MIT,and liked a lot Goebel cable.
But he is crazy,so is thinking if do,also for prestige.

I listen many times in shop or from friend Avalon Isis and one time the new Saga,Magico Q5 and Q7 and the M Project,Wilson Alexandria,Viva horn,Big Marten,Avantgarde Trio with 3 or 4 Basshorn,Acapella Triolon and the bigger,Yamamura Dionisio,and many others but this 2 speakers are at another level,of construction and sound.

First thing i would like to buy the sub Baforce Petite,but is impossible to bring with his 210 kg to my room for 2 bad and small ladder.

I never will buy one of these 2 speakers because first are too expensive for me,and then if i will win a lottery will be near impossible to bring in my room,at the last floor of my home with 2 small ladder for their dimension and big weight,but sometimes is good to dream.

If someone ask me which speaker of this 2 i prefer,i don't know,both are fantastic and i didn't understood which i prefer.

Regards

Ciao Gianluigi,

Many thanks for your visit of our premises and your awesome, knowledgeable and passionate report.
I really enjoyed your visit very much. You are of course always warmly welcome to visit us again when ever you want.

To all WBF members:

The whole Göbel High End team and I are wishing all WBF members and their loved ones a very merry Christmas time and a happy New Year 2020 with a lot of great music!

Oliver Göbel

 

[gian60]

Dear Oliver thanks.

Was really a big pleasure to visit you and your company.
Its a pity we are too far,600 km.
I saw and listened a lot in my life for 45 years and few time i was very impressed,and one time was in your room.

Fantastic speaker,fantastic cable and fantastic Oliver,very nice and very very expert.

 

[Oliver Göbel]

Hello all together,

I just want to add some additional infos.

The great picture from Gianluigi, which shows our small full anechoic chamber, is where we mostly measure and develop our proprietary loudspeaker chassis (especially the carbon excellence bending wave driver of our Epoque Aeon series, our proprietary midrange drivers of the Divin series which are additionally enhanced by our bending wave technology in order to prevent and control cone break up, the proprietary bass drivers of our Epoque and Divin series, the tweeters and big wave guides with our proprietary curve progression of the Divin series, …)

All the developing and measuring of our complete loudspeakers, final developing of the chassis, adjusting the crossovers, fine tuning shapes and chamfers of the enclosures in order to prevent edge reflections, … we perform in a very big full anechoic chamber.

This big full anechoic chamber has the inside dimensions of 11 meter x 10 meter x 11 meter and you go inside on a steel wire web. The damping wedges have a structure depth of 1,8 meters! Additionally this chamber is a room in room concept, where the inner room is resting on 256 springs and therefore is completely decoupled from the surrounding building.

This procedure is extremely cost intensive! But for the pinnacle of high end audio it is absolutely mandatory!
Only in a good full anechoic chamber you can measure, adjust and fine tune the perfect dispersion of the loudspeakers chassis, the crossovers, the enclosures, chamfers, the phase response, the impulse response, …
Of course additionally there are also multiple and extremely extensive auditioning sessions in the development process.

Under the following link, you will find a short video of the big full anechoic chamber, which we recorded during the development of the Divin Noblesse.

All the best,
Oliver

 

[Mike Lavigne]

wow!

the steel wire web floor seems like dotting the 'i' and crossing the 't'. what more could you do?

bravo Oliver!

 

[Elliot G.]

https://www.facebook.com/goebel.hig...yNYleor5S93e1m0RUeV7DCRbUAp13wE&__tn__=EEHH-R

 

[Elliot G.]

wow!

the steel wire web floor seems like dotting the 'i' and crossing the 't'. what more could you do?

bravo Oliver!

Mike its a incredible place at the University. Close the door and you might as well be on Mars!

 

[gian60]

Hi Elliot,
how are you?
i saw the Marquis before you,i think you will sell a lot of this speaker,in the price range like the medium cheap Wilson,Magico,Rockport,i am sure much better

 

[Elliot G.]

Hi Elliot,
how are you?
i saw the Marquis before you,i think you will sell a lot of this speaker,in the price range like the medium cheap Wilson,Magico,Rockport,i am sure much better

Im very well Gian. I think it will be successful too. We plan to open dealers this year and the Marquis will be serious competition for all in the price range. You will see it at Axpona and I believe Munich a month later.

 

[CKKeung]

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Hello Oliver and Elliot,
Great news for 2020!!!

Audiophiles in Hong Kong are eagerly waiting for such a model of the Divin Series.
Although the Divin Noblesse is more manageable than its biggest brother, most HK audiophiles live in apartment buildings and they need a still smaller model.

May you reveal to us the dimenions and the drivers used of the Divin Marquis?

Many thanks!

 

[Elliot G.]

Hello Oliver and Elliot,
Great news for 2020!!!

Audiophiles in Hong Kong are eagerly waiting for such a model of the Divin Series.
Although the Divin Noblesse is more manageable than its biggest brother, most HK audiophiles live in apartment buildings and they need a still smaller model.

May you reveal to us the dimenions and the drivers used of the Divin Marquis?

Many thanks!

I should be able to give you some preliminary info early next week.
Its a really exciting product and having had many conversations with Oliver I can say with confidence it will be a sensational pair of speakers. He is thrilled with the result. I think all the guys in HK will be thrilled. Coming Soon!

 

[gian60]

Could be too cheap for HK people?

 

[CKKeung]

Could be too cheap for HK people?

Hello Gian,
Don't misunderstand, most audiophiles in Hong Kong are men in the street.

 

[howiebrou]

Could be too cheap for HK people?

Gian, sono un scorticatore!

 

[gian60]

Now,Chinese government,will forbid all of you in HK to buy expensive speaker

 

[gian60]

While in Italy we cannot buy because Italian government destroyed all the good economy in Italy and take us many many taxes

 

[CKKeung]

Now,Chinese government,will forbid all of you in HK to buy expensive speaker

Haha
No, both the HK government and Mainland China government will never do that.
Economics-wise they are more democratic than many western democratic countries.

And in HK there is zero import tax and zero VAT. A consumer heaven for audiophiles!

 

[Tango]

Only this will do for HK. Nothing less. Just sound effortlessly wonderful. Naturally draw into music. Doesn't try to impress with anything. Only size is eye distracting. I heard a smaller model in real but sound nothing special like this on youtube.

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[gian60]

Every morning,when my wife prepare the coffee,i think to Gobel product,while drink my coffee