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Elliot G.
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Elliot G.
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As someone who is shopping the M2 and Rockport Avior II, my interest is certainly peaked..
Elliot G.
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I hope you will give us a listen I think you might be very pleasantly surprised. Can
you come to Axpona? or the LA Show, or my showroom in Ft. Lauderdale?
Full pics and specs coming soon
I hope you will give us a listen I think you might be very pleasantly surprised. Can
you come to Axpona? or the LA Show, or my showroom in Ft. Lauderdale?
Full pics and specs coming soon
The Gobel setup from the 2018 show was one of my favorites. But the cost of the Aeon's was above my threshold.
I live in Chicago, so Axpona is always on my "todo" list. A trip to FL during winter is always an option as well, as the wife will never say no to escaping the cold weather for a weekend trip. LA is possible as well, since I can use the "visit family" excuse as well.
Elliot G.
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Great the speaker is our most affordable yet and is are smallest speaker as well.
My visit to Gobel in 2024
I will post a complete review soon
I will post a complete review soon
Why I like Gobel Majestic + 6 Subwoofer?
If you listen to most modern dynamic driver loudspeakers and compare them to good horn loudspeakers you will realize the horns are more dynamic. In my opinion the real challenge of designing good dynamic driver speaker is :
- maximum dynamics (more efficiency)
- maximum transparency (high speed + low distortion)
- Natural Tone (like paper cones not plastic/carbon tone)
I think old big wilsons (before 2010) like Alexandria X2 were dynamic but now Wilsons are less efficient. I think new big Kharma Veyron speakers are less dynamics and also the tone is not my favorite.
Now I think Gobel Majestic + 6 subwoofers is the best full range dynamic driver loudspeaker in this market because of the Gobel Majestic has great balance between dynamics, transparency and tone.
I like dynamics of Gobel Majestic (with 6 subwoofers) and I think the combination of this setup will be very interesting:
- Wadax Reference transport DAC
- Vitus pre and Monoblock Power amplifier
- Gobel Majestic + 6 Subwoofer
- Speaker placement by Stirling Trayle
If you listen to most modern dynamic driver loudspeakers and compare them to good horn loudspeakers you will realize the horns are more dynamic. In my opinion the real challenge of designing good dynamic driver speaker is :
- maximum dynamics (more efficiency)
- maximum transparency (high speed + low distortion)
- Natural Tone (like paper cones not plastic/carbon tone)
I think old big wilsons (before 2010) like Alexandria X2 were dynamic but now Wilsons are less efficient. I think new big Kharma Veyron speakers are less dynamics and also the tone is not my favorite.
Now I think Gobel Majestic + 6 subwoofers is the best full range dynamic driver loudspeaker in this market because of the Gobel Majestic has great balance between dynamics, transparency and tone.
I like dynamics of Gobel Majestic (with 6 subwoofers) and I think the combination of this setup will be very interesting:
- Wadax Reference transport DAC
- Vitus pre and Monoblock Power amplifier
- Gobel Majestic + 6 Subwoofer
- Speaker placement by Stirling Trayle
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Look forward to reading it...particularly your views on the subs: what happens to the sound in your opinion with and without them. Intriguing having been an enormous proponent of separate dedicated subs in systems...to see many of the main designers now incorporating massive subs (not always entirely separate but certainly dedicated additional speaker sections for certain panels) but in an even bigger scale than perhaps people might have initially assumed years ago. Off-hand:
Cones
- Wilson Audio
- Magico
- YG Acoustics
- Stenheim
- Gryphon
- Tidal (La Assoluta)
- Goebel
Panels etc
- Alsyvox
- Clarysis
- Genesis
- Magnepan
Horns
- AG Trio
I have to say a long-time owner of big Wilson’s, originally the X1 and more recently the XLF, my original impression of both remains the same when I have owned both long-term.
I found the original somehow “freer” than the XLF where it does feel like you are pushing sound through it a bit more. There was a very surprising sense of alacrity and freedom of sound that the originals had I always enjoyed and admired.
Where I found the XLFs finally to a level where I preferred them was in the solidity of the presentation. The original X1s were never as solid from vibration and other matters of self-noise…and so despite that freedom in comparison with the XLF I did not get the same quiet sense of expression. I find the XLF more resolute more resolved and more sure footed overall. But I do not feel the sound is coming thru as easily as it did the original X1s. I still much prefer the XLFs overall.
And I remain intrigued by the big Divin series given their AMT, big surface area and high efficiency. I know the Audio Exotic guys a bit and respect their ears. And the Majestic sits in their main reference room alongside the big Robert Koda electronics. Would like to hear someday!
Thank you
I 100% prefer to have 6 Gobel subwoofers and I will not order Gobel Majestic without subwoofers.
I prefer Gobel subwoofer because the sound experience is very different. Some audiophiles believes the subwoofers are just for extra gain in lower bass but in my opinion the 6 gobel subwoofers change many aspects of the sound.
I do not know why but adding 6 subwoofers also change the midrange.
Depends on what kind of edge steepness/cutoff frequency you use. Anything over 125 Hz with a flatter filter of 12 dB/octave affects the accuracy of locating sound signals (usually different phase behavior from loudspeaker to subwoofer).
Correctly adjusted and positioned, it fundamentally improves music playback
My approatch for judging a loudspeaker is not about personal taste or liking special type of coloration.
I think the dynamics are important and every speaker designer should decide about how to balance different aspects of the sound.
In most modern speakers the dynamics are not good.
I have wrote about proper method of audio critique but the admin closed that topic.
Cones
- Wilson Audio : I like wilson speakers + sub specially old (before 2010) models like Alexandria X2 .
The tone is not 100% natural/musical but I think it is better than most expensive modern speakers.
The transparency is not perfect (with many SS amplifiers) but if you find a good match tube amplifier you can get good sound without feeling opaque sound.
The ported bass of wilson is not my favorite but adding sub and crossover the main unit around 40hz may help.
I would like to listen to new WAMM + Subwoofer but I can not come to USA. I think in comparison by most speaker manufactures the Wilson Audio is a good company but finally I prefer Gobel to Wilson speakers.
- Magico : Magico and Spectral Audio both are high quality US made products but I do not like Magico, it is modern sounding speaker
- YG Acoustics : I do not like YG, it is modern sounding speaker
- Stenheim : I need more time for listening to Stenheim
- Gryphon : I think it is under average. Both quality and sound are not ok.
- Tidal (La Assoluta) : between flagship model of sharp sounding speakers like marten, stelon, zellaton, benesch, … I think diamond midrange of La Assoluta is more transparent than all of them but finally I prefer Gobel Majestic to Tidal La Assoluta.
- Goebel : TAD Reference One and Gobel Majestic + Subs are my favorite dynamic driver speakers.
Panels etc : I do not like Panel speakers because of limited dynamics
- Alsyvox
- Clarysis
- Genesis
- Magnepan
Horns
- AG Trio : Jim Smith was distributor of AG in past
- Living Voice : I like Living Voice
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Fascinating. Thank you Amir. Very interesting to note. I also agree about Wilson plus subs and my next step is to look at Wilson crossover with an upgraded sub solution.
I also have liked what I have read and been told about Goebel by those whose ears I trust and can calibrate based on similar impressions and tastes.
I would say I am MOST intrigued by how emphatically positive you are on the Goebel sub towers! And for the already massive Majestic. I am not surprised but I still would love to hear them play to understand and experience the difference that it makes.
Did Goebel tell you about where the major part of the performance uplift comes from? Is it:
- the ability to have different location with separate subs
- is it the sheer size of air displacement they are producing?
- is it the vertical stacking (which REL surely promote strongly) where each level is calibrated slightly differently to create a different part of the overall effect?
I also have liked what I have read and been told about Goebel by those whose ears I trust and can calibrate based on similar impressions and tastes.
I would say I am MOST intrigued by how emphatically positive you are on the Goebel sub towers! And for the already massive Majestic. I am not surprised but I still would love to hear them play to understand and experience the difference that it makes.
Did Goebel tell you about where the major part of the performance uplift comes from? Is it:
- the ability to have different location with separate subs
- is it the sheer size of air displacement they are producing?
- is it the vertical stacking (which REL surely promote strongly) where each level is calibrated slightly differently to create a different part of the overall effect?
May I ask you two questions, Amir?
- What do you exactly mean with ‘modern sounding speaker’?
- Have you ever heard the Tidal LA speakers with top notch grounding (cables and grounding stations)? In my opinion only with top notch grounding one can fully comprehend the quality of the LA’s.
My friend watched all of John Hunter videos about subwoofer but I did not.
What I know is both speakers and subwoofers should be place in proper position and also the 6 subwoofer of Gobel have a major role in producing good sound.
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