VYGER ATLANTIS MK IV

Yes even on poorly recorded music and more average music a good turntable will give you increased dynamics and better bass compared to a mediocre TT
What's the point? You have the syndrome where you want to compare size of bass to another audiophile's bass? If it does not give you recording insight, find another hobby, or buy tough to drive speakers and run them with SS.
 
@bonzo75, have ever compared VYGER to CSPort? I am curious because they are both well regarded belt drive turntables with linear tracking tone arms.
No - I have compared CS Port at Mike's to his two tables and at Anamighty to other tables (some had different cartridges).
 
What's the point? You have the syndrome where you want to compare size of bass to another audiophile's bass? If it does not give you recording insight, find another hobby, or buy tough to drive speakers and run them with SS.
Recording insight is the music, the rhythm the textual message too not just the tone of the violin, there is lots of great music that is badly recorded and i enjoy most of it, certain cartridges, tubes and SUT's can help this along. If you want to be in this hobby you should start by buying a actual system of your own and do the real work. :rolleyes:
 
Recording insight is the music, the rhythm the textual message too not just the tone of the violin, there is lots of great music that is badly recorded and i enjoy most of it, certain cartridges, tubes and SUT's can help this along. If you want to be in this hobby you should start by buying a actual system of your own and do the real work. :rolleyes:

Why limit my understanding by playing a bad system with poor recordings and poor music like 98% of the audiophiles over and over and freeze in time? No thanks

Ps: I never mentioned tone of violin, maybe you think all classical is tone of violin with no bass and dynamic range.
 
Why limit my understanding by playing a bad system with poor recordings and poor music like 98% of the audiophiles over and over and freeze in time? No thanks

Ps: I never mentioned tone of violin, maybe you think all classical is tone of violin with no bass and dynamic range.
Most of us play a variety of different quality recordings of different artists and different kind of music and enjoy it immensely :) You seem to limit yourself by not owning a real system, because it would not be good enough for your high standards. I own thousands of records, included many hundreds of classical recordings, i just don't particularly like classical music. I never listen to the same bad music over and over again, to me that is what classical lovers do.:p
 
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Why limit my understanding by playing a bad system with poor recordings and poor music like 98% of the audiophiles over and over and freeze in time? No thanks

Ps: I never mentioned tone of violin, maybe you think all classical is tone of violin with no bass and dynamic range.
what works for you, is not where most people are wanting to be. my 2 cents would be not to try and rationalize your view. just have peace it's what you like. but it is a challenge to defend it as making much sense when you ponder it. your relationship with reproduced music, as you describe it, is a bit twisted.
 
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Sorry you are ocmpletely twisting the discussion here from TT evaluation. I have hundreds of quality records myself, I am counting the ones bought after record compares and with knowledge, not including those in bulk that are worth throwing away. I consider my evaluation only after playing those records, not before. I know you don't like classical music. That's why you like MBL amps.
Most of us play a variety of different quality recordings of different artists and different kind of music and enjoy it immensely :) You seem to limit yourself by not owning a real system, because it would not be good enough for your high standards. I own thousands of records, included many hundreds of classical recordings, i just don't particularly like classical music. I never listen to the same bad music over and over again, to me that is what classical lovers do.:p
 
what works for you, is not where most people are wanting to be. my 2 cents would be not to try and rationalize your view. just have peace it's what you like. but it is a challenge to defend it as making much sense when you ponder it. your relationship with reproduced music, as you describe it, is a bit twisted.

Please Mike, this sub discussion was started by Lagonda, not me. I am not rationalizing anything. I have zero interest in evaluating TTs with digital recordings or comparing to Wadax or dCS which sound like digital recordings or worse. That is a NLF I have left behind.
 
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Please Mike, this sub discussion was started by Lagonda, not me. I am not rationalizing anything. I have zero interest in evaluating TTs with digital recordings or comparing to Wadax or dCS which sound like digital recordings or worse. That is a NLF I have left behind.
Gentlemen. Please I was asking about the Vyger. Not more and not less. No fighting please.
 
Gentlemen. Please I was asking about the Vyger. Not more and not less. No fighting please.
It wasn’t a fight—just a leisurely stroll in the park. Situations like this are quite common here. All we need is someone diverting the subject to high prices of gear and everyone will unite again. :cool:
 
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