Zero Distortion: Tango Time

[spiritofmusic]

That Golden Age is gone, never to return. Citröen in the immediate post war period had the liberty to spend billions of Francs to develop the DS (that I drive), in many ways still unsurpassed 65 years later, and at the modern day equivalent of €100k per car, selling 1.5 million over 20 years, they STILL made a loss.

Post war hot house engineering at it's best, never to be replicated.

W music, it's such a shame, but it's a throw away commodity. WE here all value it, and those who support the classical and jazz live scene do, but the other 95% of the market?...

 

[bonzo75]

Tao, I agree with your last para. Even today I don't feel I require an analog set up after listening to so many great ones. The reason for buying it is is absolute fidelity, hobby (need something to fiddle around with and investigate), and to listen to some performances not available in good quality on digital

 

[the sound of Tao]

That Golden Age is gone, never to return. Citröen in the immediate post war period had the liberty to spend billions of Francs to develop the DS (that I drive), in many ways still unsurpassed 65 years later, and at the modern day equivalent of €100k per car, selling 1.5 million over 20 years, they STILL made a loss.

Post war hot house engineering at it's best, never to be replicated.

W music, it's such a shame, but it's a throw away commodity. WE here all value it, and those who support the classical and jazz live scene do, but the other 95% of the market?...

Pop music has always been disposable, that’s what makes it bearable. But every age has great music still, seriously substantial music whether it’s contemporary jazz or RnB or Rock or whatever. I am sure that many a pop lute tune from the early middle ages has been gratefully expunged through time by its lack substance. Not every tune has been a true goddess like your Citroen Marc.

 

[spiritofmusic]

Tao, I was more meaning the cost no object approach to engineering and recording post war to early 70s.
Disposable pop will always be an unwelcome companion.

 

[the sound of Tao]

Disposable wealth is also a thing of the past for the middle class I fear. (Edit just in case the like isn’t withdrawn for me going soap boxy). The disappearance of peak oil is going to be a lasting pain for technology and society alike. There’s just no such thing as a free lunch any more.

 

[spiritofmusic]

Hmm, cue 95% of high end sales in SE Asia, certainly not in Europe.

 

[zerostargeneral]

Dear Tao,

You ask important questions with unbridled eloquence.

Gideon Kremer and Alfred Brendel did their best work outside of the golden era yet manage to enthral and entertain at every turn.

Lineage is key to a lot of what made said era so definitive in subjective terms only.

Kreisler was better than any violinist that currently tours now.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[the sound of Tao]

My favourite Midnight Oils (Oz pub band from my youth) lyrics... the rich get richer... boutique sales of extraordinary goods to the mega rich will likely be fine going forward.

 

[Tango]

Dear Tang,

This recording is magnificent,Bach double is in my top 100.

This is excellent G!! This hobby is getting more and more about music itself for me now. It will be an interesting ride searching for my future 99.

Kindest regards,
Tang

 

[bonzo75]

My favourite Midnight Oils (Oz pub band from my youth) lyrics... the rich get richer... boutique sales of extraordinary goods to the mega rich will likely be fine going forward.

Remember trickle down economics

 

[the sound of Tao]

Dear Tao,

You ask important questions with unbridled eloquence.

Gideon Kremer and Alfred Brendel did their best work outside of the golden era yet manage to enthral and entertain at every turn.

Lineage is key to a lot of what made said era so definitive in subjective terms only.

Kreisler was better than any violinist that currently tours now.

Kindest regards,G.

You set the bar on characteristic colour and gentility G. You are kind.

I still enjoy Kremer’s recordings (thinking of a work by Arvo Part now) and Alfred Brendel is an all time absolute piano favourite. I sometimes read everyone’s latest golden era finds and I go and have a listen again. It’s been much of the joy for me in yours and Bills and Keds and Tangs vinyl too and froing (does that sound right??) as I go and listen to things afresh... will go now and get me some Kreisler thank you. Appreciated.
Cheers
Tao

 

[Tango]

Ps: I am writing quickly as we are walking around Venice. Apologies if I missed addressing any point

You are so freakin terrible man. Your GF was an angel to give you a surprise trip for your BD..to Venice. Gian said she picked the right place because there is no audio shop in Venice. But yet you still texting while walking with her. I bet you were doing this when she was in a souvenir shop. I highly propose Steve the Chief to ban Bonzo from the forum for a week to punish him for such inappropriate act he made to his GF.

 

[spiritofmusic]

I've just properly discovered Discogs. In conjunction w the tenor of this thread, I can see all my spare cash disappearing.

 

[bonzo75]

You are so freakin terrible man. Your GF was an angel to give you a surprise trip for your BD..to Venice. Gian said she picked the right place because there is no audio shop in Venice. But yet you still texting while walking with her. I bet you were doing this when she was in a souvenir shop. I highly propose Steve the Chief to ban Bonzo from the forum for a week to punish him for such inappropriate act he made to his GF.

She also had booked tickets for an opera called Stateira by a lesser known baroque era composer Tomaso Albinoni. Excellent

 

[Audiophile Bill]

She also had booked tickets for an opera called Stateira by a lesser known baroque era composer Tomaso Albinoni. Excellent

Lol. Albinoni’s “Adagio” is so well known, it typically inhabits the top 100 classical pop lists.

 

[Steve Williams]

You are so freakin terrible man. Your GF was an angel to give you a surprise trip for your BD..to Venice. Gian said she picked the right place because there is no audio shop in Venice. But yet you still texting while walking with her. I bet you were doing this when she was in a souvenir shop. I highly propose Steve the Chief to ban Bonzo from the forum for a week to punish him for such inappropriate act he made to his GF.

we could never do that. A daily dose of Ked in the AM is essential to start the day

 

[Steve Williams]

Better than Woofer and Tweet which is only 3x per week. We get a dose of Ked each day. No need for vitamin pills

 

[marty]

So here's a line that is guaranteed to get me thrown out of any music appreciation club- Heifetz has never done if for me. Mistake free and flawless he is quite often, but for moving me to joy or tears, he has never lit me up. i can't say I have a favorite fiddle player, but I do have some favorites on selected pieces. I love Bell on the Beethoven, Leila Josefowicz on the Tchaikovsky, Gil Shaham on the Sibelius, Vengerov and Shaham on the Prokofiev and for most of the "kings" of romantic repertoire such as Bruch and Mendelssohn, I'm highly drawn to Michael Rabin. I wish I knew why Heifetz always leaves my deeply appreciative, but rarely moved by his playing. Rabin, on the other hand, always rips my heart out and makes me incredibly sad that we lost him at such an early age (35). I also admit that when given the option, I'll generally seek out better modern recordings rather than find older performances of the mighty masters of the past.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

So here's a line that is guaranteed to get me thrown out of any music appreciation club- Heifetz has never done if for me. Mistake free and flawless he is quite often, but for moving me to joy or tears, he has never lit me up. i can't say I have a favorite fiddle player, but I do have some favorites on selected pieces. I love Bell on the Beethoven, Leila Josefowicz on the Tchaikovsky, Gil Shaham on the Sibelius, Vengerov and Shaham on the Prokofiev and for most of the "kings" of romantic repertoire such as Bruch and Mendelssohn, I'm highly drawn to Michael Rabin. I wish I knew why Heifetz always leaves my deeply appreciative, but rarely moved by his playing. Rabin, on the other hand, always rips my heart out and makes me incredibly sad that we lost him at such an early age (35). I also admit that when given the option, I'll generally seek out better modern recordings rather than find older performances of the mighty masters of the past.

Hi Marty,

Whilst we aren’t aligned on Heifetz, we are truly aligned on Rabin. What a tragic loss of an outstanding violinist. I love his Bruch Scottish Fantasy and Paganini Caprices among others.

 

[marty]

Hi Marty,

Whilst we aren’t aligned on Heifetz, we are truly aligned on Rabin. What a tragic loss of an outstanding violinist. I love his Bruch Scottish Fantasy and Paganini Caprices among others.

+1 on Paganini Caprices by Rabin. Big distance between him and all the others, al least for me.