Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

It’s important, isn’t it, to distinguish between turning the Extreme off for an extended period of time and then starting cold — and a quick reboot?
 
Definitely! A warm boot is not a big deal. A cold boot takes a lot longer to recover from. The power supply is not shut off with a warm boot.
 
Definitely! A warm boot is not a big deal. A cold boot takes a lot longer to recover from. The power supply is not shut off with a warm boot.
It’s all about recharging the capacitors when it is cold It takes manydays to do that IMO
 
I think Marty's issue was the Taiko router dropping taikoaudio network and David's was a power issue using port forwarding and his home network
I think that is correct (for my issue). The question is why? It is true the inciting incident seems to have been loading 2.4.7.1. I think there may have been 2 issues. First, I don't think I was using 1.19 Beta which I understand was necessary for 2.4.7.1 to work well. However, after Ed loaded that, things still did not work and the TaikoAudio network (TAN) kept crashing. That part remains a mystery but it might be that last Feb, Ed sort of tweaked my version of XDMS that may have been somewhat customized with regard to playing files off Qobuz. We're still not sure if that was it. However I'm now running Roon only and happy that TAN has been running very smoothly for several days. I'm having a conversation with Ed presently about going back to XDMS again to see if the TAN is still working as expected. If it is problematic, I would be perfectly content with Roon. SInce the Olympus will be Roon only for now, we're all going cold turkey shortly with XDMS anyway so it doesn't matter. I do hope that Ed is given the resources he needs to fully develop XDMS for the Olympus since, at least on the Extreme, it is a somewhat superior player (at least in SQ if not functionality). But my hope is that we really don't see XDMS for the Olympus until it's a finished product. I will look forward to that for sure.
 
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you should be able to access XDMS via the control app if you go into its settings and push server/player settings and click the button to the XDMS side. From what I thought Emile said, XDMS wont be available for the Olympus until it is in Beta

I had similar issues with dropping Taikoaudio wifi (if this is what you mean by it crashes). It seems I have way too many access points throughout my house which was causing this issue and also I would drop the signal during busy times of the day when likely my neighbors were accessing their network. The channel was changed and it has been fine. Emile also recently posted that you could change from 2.4 Ghz to 5Ghz or to use both and that would also ameliorate the problem . If you know your Taiko router password you can log into the router with https://192.168.100.1 and use admin as the username with your password . Finally IIRC there was some thought that the Orbi system also was a factor in the frequent drop of signal although Taiko has not investigated that. Suffice to say I have not dropped signal since this was done. Ed reached out to me today and asked if I was dropping signal and I reaassured him that using XDMS was rock solid. David stated that the recent Roon update and the use of Port forwarding was a factor in his issue, which I gather is now resolved. I have been on Roon exclusively for the past week as Ed and Todd have ben using my internal library with the new scanner that is under development using a totally new coding language which he said has resulted in scans that are 5X quicker than what we are experiencing now with even the existing latest scanner . He has been using my library due to its size. In the interim should I want to go back to XDMS I merely hit the toggle button I mentioned above so you should be able to access XDMS that way yourself unless he has removed XDMS from your system
 
Marty, not to be anal (but I am) I don’t think your Taiko Audio network is the issue. I think it is the taiko WiFi. If you connected a Mac to the router via hardwire it may work even if you can’t access it via WiFi.

Correct me if I am wrong.
 
Do most Extreme owners leave their units on always, or is it ok to turn it off until listening to music?
The Extreme runs rather warm, and in Texas it's already hot.
Thanks!
When the server has been shut down and allowed to cool off entirely, it does indeed need some time before it is fully back on song. But I find that it comes back to about 90% within the hour during which it gains refinement and flow. The last 10% of more subtle improvements (liquidity, air, decays) take longer. Of course, these percentages are arbitrary, but this is how I hear it.

Sonic reasons aside, there is no technical reason to avoid power cycling the server.

The Extreme uses 60 Watts when in use.
 
No Taiko wifi

I recently replaced a dc cable, I took one supplied by Nenon.
Afterwards I restarted as recommended:
Switch off Extreme with front button
Pull dc cables from switch and router

Power up router, wait a few minutes
Power up switch, wait a few minutes
Switch on Extreme with front button.

My ipad cannot see Taiko wifi.

Repetition of procedure, reload App, no Taiko wifi.
Unplugging DAC cable between T router and T switch, wait a few minutes, plugging it back in: no Taiko wifi. Reboot Extreme with front button then. No Taiko wifi.

Anything else I should try?
 
Good idea!
Turned wifi off at ipad, reboot ipad, switch on wifi: still noTaiko wifi…
 
I would remote into your router and see what the wireless screen says. You will need to do this via hardwire since your wifi is down.

This is what I see.

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Also, make sure the antenna hasn't fallen off.

Finally, you may want to post your issue in the Taiko thread which is dedicated to the router.
 
Good idea!
Turned wifi off at ipad, reboot ipad, switch on wifi: still noTaiko wifi…
Sometimes, it takes a few minutes for the wifi signal to appear on the tablet. It can be several minutes, probably depending on how many disturbing other (wifi-) signals are in the environment. It can also help to take the tablet really close to the Extreme Router while trying to connect. Depending on the issue, you may need to change the Wi-Fi channel. Although, it did work well before?
 
Waiting for wifi, placement close to router: no wifi.
Lots of lights on the back:
 

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Waiting for wifi, placement close to router: no wifi.
Lots of lights on the back:

Something is wrong, most likely either a cabling or power supply error.

1) the “on” light is off, it needs to be on.
2) all the rj45 lights blinking indicates an error.
3) 1) + 2) means the router did not boot due to an hardware error.

I would start with checking the powersupply / powerwiring.
 
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Oh oh.

I had the SJ mini arc 6 dc 4 connected to the dcd, which ran both T router and T switch.
A Ferrum Hypsos for Swiss internet box standard.

Enter two new dc cables, Mundorf s/g and Mundorf Angelique.

Following Emile‘s advice, I had the intention to run not only T router and T switch from dcd, but also the measly Swisscom internet box, the router before all things taiko.

So I took the new Mundorf dc cable to power the switch from dcd, one of the Taiko dc cables to run the Swisscom internet box.
No internet, no lights on the Swisscom box, which might ask for too much Amperes.
So I put back Hypsos for Swisscom internet box, internet came back.

SJ mini arc feeding again only T router and T switch: no wifi, situation as described.
 
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I took the Hypsos and used it’s 12V output into the dcd, which now feeds
- Swisscom internet box
- T router
- T switch

Taiko wifi is back, music playing.
Whew.

Hopefully I didn’t destroy my Mini arc 6 dc 4.
 
I took the Hypsos and used it’s 12V output into the dcd, which now feeds
- Swisscom internet box
- T router
- T switch

Taiko wifi is back, music playing.
Whew.

Hopefully I didn’t destroy my Mini arc 6 dc 4.

@engadin - Great to hear that the Taiko Wifi is back and music is playing.
As for the DC4 - you have absolutely nothing to worry about! You are in good hands, and if anything went wrong I will get it fixed for you.
Most likely you just need to power cycle it, but I will follow up with you privately.
 
„You are in good hands“

This. It sums up what my experience with Sean Jacobs, you and Taiko has been.

Thanks to all of you!
 
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anyone know how tall the feet are?
 
It’s all about recharging the capacitors when it is cold It takes manydays to do that IMO
Many days, what are the caps, the size of refrigerators? ;-)
 

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