This is all based on your system. The same switches you tested may sound totally different in my system. So really as far as switches are concerned you really need to try them yourself. How about a bunch of us get together split the cost and send them along for testing like the cable company does.
Best audiophile switch
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If by "best performance" you mean anything audible, I think we might be trying to solve a non-issue here; data transfer issues have never been an issue for audio.
I think anyone else would similarly have no problem listening to all those devices in all those systems in all those rooms... apart from the sonic confusion arising from listening to 6 devices at once!
BINGO. And that's what I've been saying in every single video I do on digital.
The lines that are in my front yard, wall of my house, and the interference I face based on the amount of polluting stuff in my house is complete different and unique vs any other.
Has anyone tried the Totaldac d1 switch? 3 RJ45 ports: Streamer, NAS, Router
"The d1-switch uses 4 internally chained ethernet switches, an OCXO oscillator, a mains filter and embeds natively a Totaldac live-power power supply, already proven for Totaldac DACs, streamers, drivers and amplifiers."
"gigabit ethernet for fast copies of files to the NAS/server/core and 100Mbit ethernet for the streamer output for the best sound"
"4490euros incl VAT in Europe, 4200euros excl VAT out of Europe"
www.totaldac.com
"The d1-switch uses 4 internally chained ethernet switches, an OCXO oscillator, a mains filter and embeds natively a Totaldac live-power power supply, already proven for Totaldac DACs, streamers, drivers and amplifiers."
"gigabit ethernet for fast copies of files to the NAS/server/core and 100Mbit ethernet for the streamer output for the best sound"
"4490euros incl VAT in Europe, 4200euros excl VAT out of Europe"
Totaldac d1-switch
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There was a couple of instances before I observed. Once with my cable provider's IP phone and internet that was slow and static on the phone that magically they did something (when I called them) to where the phone static cleared up and the internet sped up. The other time was when I connected two Linux ALSA audio computer's sound through direct ip (play music on one and listen on another) and my test router that was a store bought router could not keep up. However, an unmanaged cheap switch was able to keep up.
Republicoftexas69
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Internet filters like the Stack SmoothLan and NA Muon have worked quite well for me as will as TeraDak T-S212 with OCXO Clk and Sonore OM as an optical break. 3 D-Link switches in my switch room cascaded where my fiber converts to copper from my ISP Modem. 1, DGS-1016D and 2, DGS-108GL. I have no complaints and I am thoroughly enjoying this setup. Filters are on both the clean and dirty side of the optical converters.
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I love the 3 cascade D-Links I use as well. I found (IMO) the key was to use two different models to get the best vs. three of the same.
They were surprisingly better sounding than the other comparably priced switch brands I tried.
Republicoftexas69
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Mr Greek. Yes I did get the idea from your posts and YT Video. I did order a stack of switches 9wife though I lost my mind (no comment) and played around with different combinations. Used your research as a base line and had the same findings. Thanks for your insight.
Ansuz D2 is the best of the bunch! I have had quite a few Powerswitches and tried almost all of them except the new 22000 euro D-TC GOLD Signature!
On the top of the podium is the D2 (which I use in my double switch system) together with the current Telegartner M12 Premium which is the best switch I have ever tried
it is now the KING!
I would like to play with some network cables that are up to his standards (not the ones supplied by Telegartner, which are good anyway, but I think there are better ones out there).
I use the supplied TG ones into their OPTICAL BRIDGE and then run the Ethernet of my choice out of their Bridge into my Server-->Streamer-->DAC.
...may I just add: the Taiko switch, fed by their DDC filter/distributor, powered by a good LPS is a contender for Super Switch solution.
Taiko Switch lists for 4,800 € and the DDC/filter(s) for 2,400 €. You don't need the DDC to run the switch. You do, however, need a power supply, so whatever that costs, based on one's choice. And there is a router too, BTW. I use the switch and DDC, and I quite like that set-up to the Extreme.
Interesting. LPS > DDC > switch (and router if desired). do you use the filtered or unfiltered output? That really is a cool feature...
Seems one could start with the switch and use its SMPS and then upgrade later if desired. No doubt an LPS would sound better and the DDC must be the icing on the cake.
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...I began with the Taiko switch, and added the DDC perhaps six-months later. As I recall, I am on the default filter setting. I power the DDC with a Farad3 feeding an Uptone LP1.2. Sounds great.
I did not get the Taiko router, because it is expensive, and my network sounds great. That is, it seems not to sound like much of anything at all.
But, I have a dedicated fiber service *only* for the audio system, so no packets are searching for Sweetie's ecommerce page requests, or Netflix streaming activity.
Before too long, the Olympus server will land, and I will have to add Roon to control it. Not looking forward to Roon, but we are told the new Olympus topology is immune to upstream issues via XDMI output. We shall see.
We are further told, the DDC filters will not be needed. This also must be tested here.
As I person who five or six tears ago was testing various network tweaks, cascading Cisco servers, adding the modded Buffalo switch with PF OCXO, LPS feeds, optical segments, I find my network has never sounded better, although it is much simpler: *everything* powered by LPS, CAT6 copper for 35' run to basement, Taiko DDC and switch, and two-meter DAC to server.
I did not get the Taiko router, because it is expensive, and my network sounds great. That is, it seems not to sound like much of anything at all.
But, I have a dedicated fiber service *only* for the audio system, so no packets are searching for Sweetie's ecommerce page requests, or Netflix streaming activity.
Before too long, the Olympus server will land, and I will have to add Roon to control it. Not looking forward to Roon, but we are told the new Olympus topology is immune to upstream issues via XDMI output. We shall see.
We are further told, the DDC filters will not be needed. This also must be tested here.
As I person who five or six tears ago was testing various network tweaks, cascading Cisco servers, adding the modded Buffalo switch with PF OCXO, LPS feeds, optical segments, I find my network has never sounded better, although it is much simpler: *everything* powered by LPS, CAT6 copper for 35' run to basement, Taiko DDC and switch, and two-meter DAC to server.
For those of you here following (the over long) development of the radical EtherREGEN Gen2, I just made a long update post with VERY good news.
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...ng-on-page-92/?do=findComment&comment=1289550
Cheers,
--Alex C.
https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/...ng-on-page-92/?do=findComment&comment=1289550
Cheers,
--Alex C.
it is enjoyable reading about the development journey and I appreciate the transparency about your products, including annotated photos of the internals (for the original eR, for example).
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