I have a friend who is an audio file and he made his living as a technician. Around half of his work back in the day was replacing lasers in Sony transports.
Good ol’ honest engineering - the world best cd transport from years ago
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I have CEC TL0 3.0, it is far from all other transports. The difference is high
They use cheap laser from sanyo sfp 1 ~ 70$ if it sounds distorted, usually belts have to be changed.
the digital signal does not look like a square wave but more like a shark fin that creates the analogue sound. similar signature to audiomecca transport in the past
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If you judge CD transports by their specification then you are in the road to the hell.
If you judge audio equipments by magazine reviews then you are in the road to the hell.
CEC is the best CD transport ever made. The bass is far from all other transports.
The Pace and timing is far better than other transports.
The dynamic and huge amount of information is far from other transports.
If you do not like it then it means your DAC and your system is wrong.
I judge by what I get for my money, not what magazines say.
I'm more of a fan of the inventor of the belt drive system Udo Besser from Burmester. You get a higher quality of workmanship for your money. Direct, resistor and transformer coupled digital output with an almost perfect jitter-free signal. I adjust my sound with a DAC, the Burmester provides an excellent basis for high-quality digital sound.
This is a masterpiece in mechanical engineering and sound and worth every penny. My opion
I listened to this player and also to the top level of complete burmester ($500k) audio system.
The sound is dead .
I think so too.
The best statement from Stereophile magazine for the CEC transport was the external power supply. The transformer and the massive filtering of the voltage impressed us. Then there are only three fuses, a switch, a transformer and two sockets. They must have a special device and they completely forgot to measure the device.I know why
No, I listened to Burmester many times.
If you compare CEC TL0 vs Burmester Transport in a reference system you will see the CEC is far from Burmester.
Your ears can tell you every thing about it.
that's your opinion, the 069 without question for me is the belt player on the market, 089 is might good as well
If you can buy it cheaply used like here*, that's OK. But never worth the new price. I know the drive very well. I'd rather stick with my small micromega transport, the sound is better with my metronome dac. I'm really happy for you if you're happy with it.
*https://www.dealhomeaudio.com/shop/cec-tl0-cd-transport/
*https://www.dealhomeaudio.com/shop/cec-tl0-cd-transport/
There is no smart thinking in your description, just only negative marketing comment.I think so too.
The best statement from Stereophile magazine for the CEC transport was the external power supply. The transformer and the massive filtering of the voltage impressed us. Then there are only three fuses, a switch, a transformer and two sockets. They must have a special device and they completely forgot to measure the device.I know why
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so my opinion is marketing and yours is fact, BS. I have heard the CEC, fine in its day, it is not better than the 069 IMO and many others agree. that's not marketing, that's listening to them and making a decision
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I had Burmester 969 transport and 970 dac and also CecTL 0 with Kondo DAC and Kalista
Also Kalista and Wadia S7I used like transport and Barclay Cabernet
The best for me was
1) Kalista
2) Burmester
3) Cec TL0
4) Wadia and Barclay
Also Kalista and Wadia S7I used like transport and Barclay Cabernet
The best for me was
1) Kalista
2) Burmester
3) Cec TL0
4) Wadia and Barclay
The square digital wave is not a spec but rather a forensic test. CEC is great, and like for the heavily flywheel driven by a weak motor via belt, so it sort of smooths out the rotation. The best transport mechanisms seem to have heavy rotors and weak motors, eg VRDS and CDM-1. CEC TL 1x seems to be best value play.
Big fan of Kalista Ref Transport. It was the only one I seriously considered when I had only the Zanden DAC. Another buyer went further than I wanted to and got it. Then I came across a latest spec 4-box Zanden (transport and DAC) and traded in for it. Never looked back. And after 18 years, 12 of the owners I know who own one still own it. Even Audiocrack who had it for many many years has kept the Transport even as he has moved from Zanden DAC (and also DCS) to Wadax Ref.
I’ve listened to the CEC TL0 many times in my friend’s setup, and I’ve also listened to the Burmester 069 too. I haven’t had the chance to compare them side by side, but in terms of ease of flow, dynamics, and bass impact, the CEC TL0 is unmatched by the Burmester.
The Burmester 069 sounds great, but it’s not on the same level as the CEC TL0. I’ve also heard the TL1—it’s okay, but it’s not like the TL0. In fact, there’s no transport quite like the TL0.
I’ve also listened to the Zanden four-piece transport-DAC combo many times in my friend’s setup. It’s great, but it’s not comparable to the CEC. I’ve heard Metronome transports as well, both with Metronome DACs and with other DACs like Kondo. They’re great Philips Pro 2 transports, but nothing special. IMHO the only transport that might challenge the TL0 is the 47 Labs, but I haven’t had the chance to listen to it long enough to make a proper comparison.
If you’ve heard the CEC TL0 and don’t think it’s the best then there is something wrong with the setup. Try to find it. Sorry, that’s the only way I can put it.
The Burmester 069 sounds great, but it’s not on the same level as the CEC TL0. I’ve also heard the TL1—it’s okay, but it’s not like the TL0. In fact, there’s no transport quite like the TL0.
I’ve also listened to the Zanden four-piece transport-DAC combo many times in my friend’s setup. It’s great, but it’s not comparable to the CEC. I’ve heard Metronome transports as well, both with Metronome DACs and with other DACs like Kondo. They’re great Philips Pro 2 transports, but nothing special. IMHO the only transport that might challenge the TL0 is the 47 Labs, but I haven’t had the chance to listen to it long enough to make a proper comparison.
If you’ve heard the CEC TL0 and don’t think it’s the best then there is something wrong with the setup. Try to find it. Sorry, that’s the only way I can put it.
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