How much is too much?

Are you serious? They look like $300 amps.

Apparently the simplicity is deliberate

Tsuda-san's design philosophy is closely aligned with Albert Einstein's often quoted dictum to make things as simple as possible, but not simpler. More to the point is Einstein's corollary: "Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction." In audio design terms, this means a minimalist approach and perfectionist emphasis on parts quality and circuit layout. A short signal path is an explicit design goal.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/superioraudio/equipment/1207/silicone_arts_zl_120_cf_080.htm
 
Are you serious? They look like $300 amps.

Remember the Goldmund Golden Cube for 25K. Not a whole lot inside either :)
 
So why the big box, then?

Tim
 
So why the big box, then?

Tim
The white van seller, sorry I mean engineer has big hairy hands, so needs a larger box to fumble around inside to fit the components :)
Sure is a painful to look at chassis in terms of quality, and that is even comparing it to ARC that are not really in the high end style stakes but go for functionality.

Cheers
Orb
 
I think it is both.
All white van audio sellers seem to have big clunking fists, so they need a massive box to begin with to bash the components in, and then also can benefit from charging more as well due to its large size :)

Thinking seriously for a minute (tough for me to do at times :) ),
sadly it seems the white van seller has evolved with the internet and now can sell at much higher prices due to having greater visibility for their products, hence they can risk charging a ridiculous amount of money these days.
To an extent this applies to the more honest DIY build in the garage sellers, who are still asking way too much with many potential risks for the sucker customer.
Even more worrying is the safety of the white van seller type gear.
Wonder how many of these even test the stability of their amps/power supply/etc.

Still at these prices, you would think a consumer would compare prices to the well established and highly engineered-respected manufacturers who are more competitively priced.
Cheers
Orb
 
I'm not familiar with this term "White Van Seller." Can someone explain?

Tim
 
I personally saw this in action one time when I was on travel in Crystal City, VA. I just laughed at the guy. Imagine my surprise when a few months later my own brother fell for the scam and bought some speakers from a white van in Louisville, KY.
 
One used to read about these scammers all the time over at AA :(
 
You get this for $5000
 

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I have one of those. Have I been ripped off ?

Well you could have purchased an Emotiva, (smile). The terms bargain or best buy have all but disappeared or represent a mockery in high audio. I do think the Magtech is a best buy.
 
I have one of those. Have I been ripped off ?

Maybe. $800....

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...hard to tell.

Tim
 
I personally saw this in action one time when I was on travel in Crystal City, VA. I just laughed at the guy. Imagine my surprise when a few months later my own brother fell for the scam and bought some speakers from a white van in Louisville, KY.

Louisville seems to be the capital of the white van scam as I see it :(
 
One would think the the Nigerian letter scam would have run it's course by now. Instead at least anecdotally it's victims are becoming more affluent and involve larger sums of money. The latest version is pretending to be a friend, who is on a trip and had his cash and credit cards stolen. Money is requested to complete the return trip.
 
Out of interest - how does one decide that a component is a rip-off based on nothing else but the fact that there is not much inside the box?

Like anything else, if it doesn't deliver.
 

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