Magico M9

[spiritofmusic]

That's fine, Duke. But I am.

 

[Duke LeJeune]

That's fine, Duke. But I am.

Touche'!!

 

[dcathro]

As I get older, I find myself being more frugal and careful. I prefer to try and get the best out of what I have rather than splash out on the latest (not that I can afford this anyway). I get greater satisfaction out this optimisation -spending a lot of time - than I would spending big bucks.

That said, I am not going to criticize other people for spending what they can on what they want. We all make our own choices.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I just find it surprising the mid is a puny little thing...

Most midrange cones are in the 4" to 6" range, no?

 

[Alrainbow]

I have no idea if these or the WAMMS end up mostly in large living spaces or in dedicated listening rooms. Nor do I have an opinion on which aesthetic I would prefer if I ever see an actual one in person. And then there is the sound. From the photographs, I think each might make quite a statement in either setting.

We can surely criticise the high prices and decadence, and whatever else we can come up with, but I say let them duke it out. I think we benefit from the exploration of technology and the sheer willingness by these businesses to pursue such efforts.

These are the dreams of their designers. They have been successful enough to be able to pursue these dreams and make them available to others. I think it is fantastic.

It’s my understanding WA sells more speakers than any in the high end, BTW i like the all out look of both M9 and WAMM ..

 

[Alrainbow]

Most midrange cones are in the 4" to 6" range, no?

Depends on where the designer defines the cutoff freq of the midrange , but yes most are in the 4-6 inch range if crossing over to a 1inch dome ...

 

[Alrainbow]

What Alon is probably saying is that the passive components would have been so massive so as to lose a lot of the energy, as opposed to a little; he must have needed large cap and/or inductor values. And he may just wanted the option of in-situ adjustments; like many, I have also found them invaluable in my own speakers

Not a fan of adding active anything for mids/highs ...

 

[Alrainbow]

My PBN speakers use this approach, caps are precharged with three 12 volt batteries.

Must ask Peter about this ..

 

[Alrainbow]

No. Just more sh*t. I want quality stuff. I haven't seen a change in quality from old to new magico. Slight change in sound that people with lack of exposure consider an upgrade, yes. So if I can't see a justification of 2k for Q7 mk2 (which don't stand up to Martin Logan hybrids, apogee scintilla, vintage tannoy, or devore orangutans, all substantially cheaper, we are not even taking SoTA territory), why should I see 750k as impressive given the speaker history. A marketing student should be impressed, for sure. This is just ratcheting up of price tickets by a company with impressive marketing record but not a sonics record

Devore Orangutans is a bit of a stretch ehh

 

[Alrainbow]

Use a bigger midrange driver. I have 8 inch and 10 inch mids in my systems...effortless. Our Dynamikks use up to 12 inch mids...again effortless. Of course a big panel does the same...

12 inch mid must have a pretty low cutoff to tweeters

 

[Alrainbow]

Interesting

Zu doesn't need anyone else. You against the world

Interesting your a big Annoys fan now Ked ..!

 

[Bobvin]

i think when assessing this ultimate Magico design, you have to consider what makes Magico......Magico. elegance, and fitting into a particular vibe trumps other criteria. how to make it the most Magico it can be. not that it won't perform really well.

ponder who chooses to actually buy a particular $750k speaker? someone who has his/her/their interior designer accessorize the room......mostly. not us mouth-breathing mono-brows with open top gear cases sitting around, listening in our underwear.

making a business case for the design, it does connect the dots.

walking into a really high class residence, would you be more impressed with the WAMM or the M9? i think the M9 wins going away. and an M9 sitting in a dealer showroom will be a magnet.

this is eye candy for the whole line-up. and i think good for the hifi industry.

Kind of a badonka-donk bottom though, if you ask me.

“Do these woofers make my ass look big.”

 

[Lagonda]

Kind of a badonka-donk bottom though, if you ask me.

“Do these woofers make my ass look big.”

LOL !Baby’s got back !

 

[ack]

With a cost-no-object speaker, and a size-no-object design brief, I just have in my head that I want more midrange driver surface area. With giant dynamic driver speakers I just don't like the idea that such a small part of tne real estate of the speaker is being used to squirt out so much of the all-important middle frequency range.

I agree with you! I should have mentioned the flip side of the trade-off, which is what you're describing here.

This is a big part why I never went back to dynamic speakers, and a point I've made to my friends a number of times over the years - how can you possibly fit effectively an entire orchestra through a 6-inch midrange. However, we don't know how the spectrum is distributed in many a high-end dynamic design, such as the M9.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Of course there are trade-offs with every speaker topology. I just know that for dynamic driver speakers I like the idea of two midrange drivers -- double the midrange driver surface -- more than one.

 

[tonytsui]

I was told M9 consists of two parts that stack on each other. That makes sense since it is almost impossible to move a 1000 lbs 80” tall object. The 700 lbs Q7 has caused some unpleasant incidents in the past during transportation.

My guess is the split is below the binding posts. The upper portion is a complete speaker like an inverted M6, the lower part is just the subwoofer. That’s why the binding posts are so high up in the speaker.

The Q7’s binding posts are also in the middle. it was said that it would make the shortest connection to the midrange.

 

[pdxaudio]

If I am not mistaken, some of the technologies are actually trickling-up here, isn't the A5 got the AHC diaphragms already?

I was wondering about the same thing, I remember reading that in the SoundStage article.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I wonder if the lower half of the speaker -- the two 15" inch woofers -- will be configured someday as a standalone subwoofer system and offered separately.

 

[QuadDiffuser]

I don’t understand how the tweeter can be surrounded by such a massive baffle area equivalent to multiples of wavelengths of the higher frequencies and and not suffer horrendous diffraction - no, the gentle curve will not do the job! Will Magico be selling rings of organic grass-fed sheep extra-virgin merino wool padding as stick-on accessories, for several kilo-bucks?

 

[Ron Resnick]

Let's not forget the very formidable and competitive and high-sensitivity Divin Majestic. To justify its price the M9 will have to vanquish that amazing loudspeaker as well! There is some very impressive and stiff competition at the one-column SOTA dynamic driver loudspeaker level.

Oh, and let's not forget about the four column Gryphon Kodo (with self-powered woofer tower and four midrange drivers per side) at less than half the price of the M9.