Maybe it's better not to know
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Talking about cash, with my Zus still doing so much right, even in comparison to a startlingly good system I've heard recently w no apparent major weaknesses, I still am minded to wring out further impvts.
Looking at specialist isolation under the Zus to replace stock spikes to max bass tightness and extension , supertweeters to max air and ambience, and specialist room treatments to go the extra mile on an already very pleasing acoustic.
Together with further attention to Zu subs crossover settings, I'm going deep on really discovering if the Zus have more to give.
Good news is that these don't break the bank, parallel investigation into horns can go on alongside together w getting funds together.
I'll certainly have the most forensically maxxed Zus out there.
Looking at specialist isolation under the Zus to replace stock spikes to max bass tightness and extension , supertweeters to max air and ambience, and specialist room treatments to go the extra mile on an already very pleasing acoustic.
Together with further attention to Zu subs crossover settings, I'm going deep on really discovering if the Zus have more to give.
Good news is that these don't break the bank, parallel investigation into horns can go on alongside together w getting funds together.
I'll certainly have the most forensically maxxed Zus out there.
Yes, there is no free lunch as we like to say over here.
I've mentioned this before, but my classical listening went from 5% to 30%+ after I moved from Zu to Devore.
Well Keith, you're the perfect man to help me.
You know Zu, know what they excel at and what comes up lacking.
And you've moved away so can be truly unbiased and unvarnished truthful in yr views.
Can I ask you to seek out the Druids VI wherever practical, and any future models using the new drivers/cabinets (likely Definitions V and purported flagship Experiences), and report back whether Zu have cracked thus opaque/gritty bottleneck, or whether full range drivers are by definition fatally hampered by having to stretch all the way to 12kHz (most mid drivers never having to go higher than 6-7kHz).
You know Zu, know what they excel at and what comes up lacking.
And you've moved away so can be truly unbiased and unvarnished truthful in yr views.
Can I ask you to seek out the Druids VI wherever practical, and any future models using the new drivers/cabinets (likely Definitions V and purported flagship Experiences), and report back whether Zu have cracked thus opaque/gritty bottleneck, or whether full range drivers are by definition fatally hampered by having to stretch all the way to 12kHz (most mid drivers never having to go higher than 6-7kHz).
Keith, if I do indeed move from Zu, it's unlikely to be to another box spkr.
I'll either stick w SETs and go horns, or maybe ditch tube power and dive into Apogees.
The equivalent of a full on audiofools mid life crisis LOL.
I'll either stick w SETs and go horns, or maybe ditch tube power and dive into Apogees.
The equivalent of a full on audiofools mid life crisis LOL.
There is allegedly a semi-prototype Definition to be shown at RMAF. I think the Experience is on indefinite hold.
You talk a good game about horns, but don't seem to ever fully enjoy them so I'd just look elsewhere. Maybe Voxativ is a brand you'd like? I don't know.
Keith, it's not so much that I don't get on w them, it's that they have certain compromises I haven't quite reconciled.
And one well-regarded example is by far the most unpleasant audio experience I've had the misfortune of wasting a day of my life on.
However I've had 5 years of constant exposure and evolving respect for another pair.
I've heard another expensive pair sound nigh on totally fantastic in one setup and rank poor in another.
And a fascinating full range driver horn recently auditioned left me impressed but as many qs as answers.
On top of all that, the single most out of body experience I've had with audio was in 2014 with a reimagined ground breaking design that first existed pre war, a single horn in a vast conference type space that brought new meaning to cosmic enjoyment.
And one well-regarded example is by far the most unpleasant audio experience I've had the misfortune of wasting a day of my life on.
However I've had 5 years of constant exposure and evolving respect for another pair.
I've heard another expensive pair sound nigh on totally fantastic in one setup and rank poor in another.
And a fascinating full range driver horn recently auditioned left me impressed but as many qs as answers.
On top of all that, the single most out of body experience I've had with audio was in 2014 with a reimagined ground breaking design that first existed pre war, a single horn in a vast conference type space that brought new meaning to cosmic enjoyment.
Come to Switzerland for a long weekend and hear Universums (assuming Christoph is cool with a visit), Odeons, Dynamikks, Apogees and maybe Boenicke Audio as well.
Brad, aren't you going to recommend Dartzeel, CH Precision, Soulution, etc etc as well LOL.
Hey, lots of reasons to visit Switzerland, your kind invite being one of them.
I'll seriously consider it, just need to swing work commitments. Let me keep in PM touch w you on that. I'll try to be as well behaved as Ked.
Hey, lots of reasons to visit Switzerland, your kind invite being one of them.
I'll seriously consider it, just need to swing work commitments. Let me keep in PM touch w you on that. I'll try to be as well behaved as Ked.
I may have gone OT on my own thread, probably only I could do that LOL.
I guess I started the thread when I realised so many interesting bleeding edge comparisons would never be made, and was curious if many on the forum were frustrated if that was the case.
I mean in the car world there are no end of supercar comparisons, not so much in audio.
Maybe audio is even more subjective than driving, so these comparisons of SOTA tts for example are surplus to requirements.
I guess I started the thread when I realised so many interesting bleeding edge comparisons would never be made, and was curious if many on the forum were frustrated if that was the case.
I mean in the car world there are no end of supercar comparisons, not so much in audio.
Maybe audio is even more subjective than driving, so these comparisons of SOTA tts for example are surplus to requirements.
Of course comparisons can be bad for yr mental health, I'm certainly still reeling from the most natural, analog like playback I've ever heard from digital, at a system I visited at the weekend.
It's given me so many data points to consider, it's hard to know where to start.
It's given me so many data points to consider, it's hard to know where to start.
C'mon Brad, get real.
WAMM Chronosonic.
Re this SOTA spkr, it is indeed able to be compared to a SOTA horn, I believe there's an AS2000 owner running the WAMM and the Living Voice top dog.
WAMM Chronosonic.
Re this SOTA spkr, it is indeed able to be compared to a SOTA horn, I believe there's an AS2000 owner running the WAMM and the Living Voice top dog.
What does that demonstrate beyond the DAC that the guy apparently has a lot of money. So Wilson finally figured out time alignment and even more drivers...more of the same.
I have heard just about every Wilson worth hearing and I can say unequivocally they aren't even in the same galaxy as the big LVs...one is hifi and the other a music replicator. The Chronosonic is just more of the same from hifi most likely.
The issue here is definition of SOTA, are we talking SOTA in terms of sound quality or tech and cabinetry?
david
Billy and I talked at length about the Chronosonic and its performance. From our discussion it is definitely not "another" Wilson with time alignment and more drivers. I am supposed to hear them for myself very soon
Not sure if that's true, he just said that the LV & Wilsons are very different. Sure as horn guys we both would prefer the LV over the other but that's not defining SOTA.
david
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