MSB Renderer v2 in the house!

[nonesup]

The central pole of an Entreq Poseidon with an Entreq Eartha Olympus cable.

Note my Emo EN-70HD also is for sale in this forum at 50%, but it seems to me that with the comments I make it will be difficult to sell

 

[asiufy]

The central pole of an Entreq Poseidon with an Entreq Eartha Olympus cable.

Note my Emo EN-70HD also is for sale in this forum at 50%, but it seems to me that with the comments I make it will be difficult to sell

Well, our systems have none of these grounding devices, and we don't have special power supplies for routers/switchers/NAS. Everything standard. The EN-70HD was a nice boost in resolution. Given it's $200, I think it's worth a try.

 

[nonesup]

Well your point of view.
In my case I agree with Kingsrule; I put it where I put it the focus was lost

 

[asiufy]

Neither of you seem to be using an MSB Renderer too, which I believe to be relevant as well...

 

[StickMan451]

Has anyone received their new Renderer module for the Analog DAC?

 

[Kingsrule]

Neither of you seem to be using an MSB Renderer too, which I believe to be relevant as well...

My thoughts on the EMO are with MSB and V2 Renderer

 

[moby2004]

Hello
Not too sure this is the right topic but anyone listened to the reference transport with and without a MSB DAC ?

Thanks
Alex

 

[microstrip]

My main server is in my office on my network using Roon accessing my library from my Synology NAS to my dedicated network in my listening room using NetGear ProSafe GS108T switch (...)

The guys at UpTone Audio tested it and it was one of the least noisy switches

Last week I received the NetGear ProSafe GS108T and it has been operating for a few days in my system with a lead battery custom LPS. My Roon based play back system, including JCAT Femto ethernet card, glass fiber isolators and a Synology NAS made a considerable jump - at last I am enjoying my TIDAL subscription and giving due merit to my collection of HiRez!

Thanks guys for pointing me the way!

 

[sandpat]

Just got today one of the very first Renderer modules from MSB, and first impressions are... OMFG!!!!!!!

Plug-and-play, Roon saw it immediately. Can target all sorts of resolution, including MQA.

Sounds considerably better than the Innuos Zenith through USB.

Shame the new Ref transport isn't here anymore, but this seems as good as!


cheers,
alex

Hi Alex, et al,

I have an Innuos Zenith MKII (running Roon server) and an MSB Analog DAC on the way with the new Network Renderer. As for setup, can I connect the MSB Analog DAC directly to the Innuos Zenith using a short ethernet cable via the Streamer ethernet port on the Innuos? I'm a little confused as to whether this streamer port is strictly for streamers or it can be used for Roon on Innuos directly to DAC through the new renderer on the MSB.

Second, does the new network renderer module for the Analog DAC decode MQA as well? Or does the new renderer only decode MQA for the DAC IV, IV+ and V only? I see a note with an asterisk on their site but can't tell based on how it's worded. I received no response to an inquiry directly to MSB: http://www.msbtechnology.com/renderer-rev2/

Here's the line that confuses me: *The Renderer adds MQA decoding to the DAC IV, IV+, and V for the first time and includes an additional Pro I2S input.

Hoping MQA decoding works for the Analog DAC as well with this v2 renderer.

thanks!

 

[asiufy]

Hi Alex, et al,

I have an Innuos Zenith MKII (running Roon server) and an MSB Analog DAC on the way with the new Network Renderer. As for setup, can I connect the MSB Analog DAC directly to the Innuos Zenith using a short ethernet cable via the Streamer ethernet port on the Innuos? I'm a little confused as to whether this streamer port is strictly for streamers or it can be used for Roon on Innuos directly to DAC through the new renderer on the MSB.

Second, does the new network renderer module for the Analog DAC decode MQA as well? Or does the new renderer only decode MQA for the DAC IV, IV+ and V only? I see a note with an asterisk on their site but can't tell based on how it's worded. I received no response to an inquiry directly to MSB: http://www.msbtechnology.com/renderer-rev2/

Here's the line that confuses me: *The Renderer adds MQA decoding to the DAC IV, IV+, and V for the first time and includes an additional Pro I2S input.

Hoping MQA decoding works for the Analog DAC as well with this v2 renderer.

thanks!

Hi sandpat,

Good choice on the Innuos
The "Streamer" port on the Innuos is just a helpful reference, that that's where you should plug upstream Ethernet-enabled components, like the MSB Renderer, or a Linn streamer, for instance.
So yeah, just connect your router to the "LAN" port, and the MSB Renderer to the "Streamer" port, and you're all set!
Once everything is plugged in, Roon will "see" the MSB Renderer automatically (well, you'll have to configure it once).
As for MQA compatibility, you're right, that's not clear. I'll inquire with them as well, as see what they say.
Enjoy!

cheers,
alex

 

[AJR]

A few days ago, when my replacement MSB renderer input module arrived (the one that I ordered with my MSB Premier did not work), I finally got my MSB Premier and Innuos Zenith MkII (I am waiting for mk III to arrive - hopefully later this month or October). The MSB renderer is fed directly from the “streamer” out on the Zenith. It works beautifully! I am a very happy camper. Now the long burn in for the MSB...

 

[koalakoala]

Some msb models like analog already has an earlier mqa usb module, so renderer 2 is not the first mqa addition.
For dac v etc, renderer 2 is mqa capable for the first time.

 

[sandpat]

Great thank you! I’m hoping MSB write back. Will try pinging them myself again.

Thanks also for the information on the streamer port. Felt their documentation was a bit lacking on that port and Innuos customer support, although very responsive, didn’t seem to quite understand what I was asking.

Cheers

 

[sandpat]

Thanks all for the follow-up responses to my query. Appreciate the insight.

I’m considering upgrading to the Innuos Zenith MKIII myself. I think it’s about a $1500 upgrade. Is it worth it?

Re: the Network Renderer; good to know it does decode MQA on the analog DAC.

Cheers

 

[AJR]

The manuals are very poor. Unbefitting of them TBH. That said, they are still developing the renderer v2 manual. Still kinks to iron out apparently. Try to get your MSB dealer to connect you to MSB (Jonathan Gullman) directly. He was very responsive and helpful to me.

 

[AJR]

No idea if the mk3 is a material improvement or not, nor the price upgrade. I decided to commit blind. I have a mk2 on loan until my mk3 arrives.

 

[asiufy]

Hi,

We haven't received the mk3s yet, but if anybody wants to commit, we're here and we can help
As for the MSB, their manuals have improved quite a bit. They're very "to the point" now. The problem right now is the website, that's not 100% clear on the MQA on Analog DAC Renderer. Still waiting to hear back, will post as soon as I do.
If anybody needs help with MSB and they don't have a dealer nearby, you're all welcome to contact me directly. I've played with most of their stuff, and I think I know it well


cheers,
alex

 

[asiufy]

CONFIRMED: Analog DAC Renderer v2 supports MQA!

 

[sandpat]

CONFIRMED: Analog DAC Renderer v2 supports MQA!

Great! Breathing a sigh of relief.... at $1995 retail was hoping it would include MQA for the Analog DAC as well. Thanks for the confirmation Alex, and others. I get my Analog DAC next week; cannot wait!

 

[sandpat]

Does anyone have a Network Renderer V2 manual handy? It’s still not up on MSB’s website and I have no idea how I can access the Analog DAC settings without accessing its web interface. I’m assuming there is a web interface as the Wi-Fi controller module has it, although mine appears to not be working as I don’t see any local Wi-Fi networks I can connect to. Can we access the MSB settings page through the network renderer?