Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

With respect to the Taiko Extreme how do you connect it to your DAC

  • USB

    Votes: 53 62.4%
  • Ethernet

    Votes: 14 16.5%
  • Both USB and Ethernet

    Votes: 10 11.8%
  • AES/EBU

    Votes: 10 11.8%
  • Dual AES/EBU

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 7.1%

  • Total voters
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oldmustang

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Wise guides or wise guys? :eek:
 

alwayslearning

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Is anyone using a Playback Designs MPD-8 DAC with an Extreme? If yes, please pm me....thx
 

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Thank you Jon for your elaborate report. Happy you are enjoying your experience!
 

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A few other recent arrivals:

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alwayslearning

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Wow, those are drool worthy listening spaces, Emile. I love the view of the wooded area in the third photo. Looking forward to a visit during sunnier times.
 

Mike Lavigne

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just spent an hour or so working through some TAS-dac investigations with Emile. last night a few others with Wilson. i really appreciate the efforts being made by this team on our behalf. i can access all the performance, but it's not yet a seamless experience. i'm sure it will become more so.

i'm hearing digital at a whole new level of performance. both my files and Quboz.

right now i listening to a 24/176 and 24/192 (it contains tracks of both resolutions) file of Patricia Barber's Modern Cool. this is a long time reference for me. it's a fine recording. now it reminds me of 1/2" tape. like i can sink deep into it. prior it's only hinted that it might be like this.

this is so exciting.
 
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Kingsrule

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just spent an hour or so working through some TAS-dac investigations with Emile. last night a few others with Wilson. i really appreciate the efforts being made by this team on our behalf. i can access all the performance, but it's not yet a seamless experience. i'm sure it will become more so.

i'm hearing digital at a whole new level of performance. both my files and Quboz.

right now i listening to a 24/176 and 24/192 (it contains tracks of both resolutions) file of Patricia Barber's Modern Cool. this is a long time reference for me. it's a fine recording. now it reminds me of 1/2" tape. like i can sink deep into it. prior it's only hinted that it might be like this.

this is so exciting.
WOW!
 

oldmustang

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I'm hearing digital at a whole new level of performance. both my files and Quboz.

right now i listening to a 24/176 and 24/192 (it contains tracks of both resolutions) file of Patricia Barber's Modern Cool. this is a long time reference for me. it's a fine recording. now it reminds me of 1/2" tape. like i can sink deep into it. prior it's only hinted that it might be like this.

this is so exciting.

I couldn't agree more with you, Mike. As I dive deeper into my favorite digital tracks I continue to be more and more impressed by the sound quality delivered by TAS.

I don't have a lot of experience with R2R other than playing high-resolution digital transfers from HDTT and a friend who collects master tapes, but I can say without hesitation that well-recorded, well-transferred digital files absolutely sound the best I've ever heard in my home. The Extreme itself significantly narrowed the gap between digital and vinyl in my system, and TAS has done more of the same -- giving me hours of deep relaxation and musical enjoyment without ever being tempted to reach for an LP.

If not at true parity -- and I haven't sat down to seriously compare my best digital files to my best vinyl yet -- I think I'm getting so close that my decision about what to play now comes down to provenance and recording-pressing/transfer quality and not analog vs digital. At least at my house.

An amazing achievement by Emile, Wilson and all the Taiko team.

Steve Z
 
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I couldn't agree more with you, Mike. As I dive deeper into my favorite digital tracks I continue to be more and more impressed by the sound quality delivered by TAS.

I don't have a lot of experience with R2R other than playing high-resolution digital transfers from HDTT and a friend who collects master tapes, but I can say without hesitation that well-recorded, well-transferred digital files absolutely sound the best I've ever heard in my home. The Extreme itself significantly narrowed the gap between digital and vinyl in my system, and TAS has done more of the same -- giving me hours of deep relaxation and musical enjoyment without ever being tempted to reach for an LP.

If not at true parity -- and I haven't sat down to seriously compare my best digital files to my best vinyl yet -- I think I'm getting so close that my decision about what to play now comes down to provenance and recording-pressing-transfer quality and not analog vs digital. At least at my house.

An amazing achievement by Emile, Wilson and all the Taiko team.

Steve Z
But wait.... the best is yet to come
 

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i see a poll on output connection type above but need more resolution on the type of DAC.
is aes/ebu still the preferred digital output for feeding a TotalDAC?
 

Steve Williams

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Just to re iterate...if you’re an Extreme owner you should seriously consider becoming a beta tester because truly if you think things sound great now I can tell you that the SQ of the alpha version of TAS totally trumped what I previously heard from Roon. And this is just the beginning as it is an open platform dedicated to bringing us the best sounding music. I haven’t listened to Roon since Emile installed the alpha version of TAS. I hope this suggestion to Extreme owners doesn’t overload Ed and his team but with more beta users it could give a lot more data points to Emile and his team.
 

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Hi does TAS handle large libraries Steve? I have about 15k albums - will it be easyto find and discover or do you discover on another platform then play it on tas? Part of the journey is the discovery:)
 

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We have around 30 signees so far, we can handle a few more. I’ll repeat the link here:

TAS Beta signup page
 

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i see a poll on output connection type above but need more resolution on the type of DAC.
is aes/ebu still the preferred digital output for feeding a TotalDAC?

I’d rate it at about 90% of USB, but it’s a softer presentation which some people may prefer over the higher res picture USB paints.
 

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Hi does TAS handle large libraries Steve? I have about 15k albums - will it be easyto find and discover or do you discover on another platform then play it on tas? Part of the journey is the discovery:)

@Mike Lavigne has a similar library size to yours, he did need to purchase a more recent Ipad if I recall correctly.
 

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Hi does TAS handle large libraries Steve? I have about 15k albums - will it be easyto find and discover or do you discover on another platform then play it on tas? Part of the journey is the discovery:)

i have around 10,500 album files on my PCIe drives.

TAS certainly handles the volume fine, but at this stage in it's development it does not sort by format, or most listened to, or newest. you can choose album, or artist alphabetically. or do playlists or favorites.

Quboz in TAS is much closer to the same search feel than my files right now. i can get around there quite easily.

so right now things are not where i'm use to them being, and not being able to sort by format, and then by most played (which is my preferred sorting approach with Roon) does slow me down.

but it's brand new, and sounds fabulous and living through the maturation process is fine with me. i can revert to Roon if i need to find something and then switch back.

another week or two of using TAS i'm sure i will be able to navigate better. i've not really used it much yet because of some dac computability issues that are close to being resolved.
 
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Mike Lavigne

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@Mike Lavigne has a similar library size to yours, he did need to purchase a more recent Ipad if I recall correctly.

yes; my old (5-6 years old) i-pad could not handle certain modes of album viewing. likely Roon was more efficient and less demanding. but any newer i-pad with more RAM should be fine.
 

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yes; my old (5-6 years old) i-pad could not handle certain modes of album viewing. likely Roon was more efficient and less demanding. but any newer i-pad with more RAM should be fine.
How about Android?
 

Mike Lavigne

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How about Android?

can't say, have not tried. i'd guess it's the same story. TAS is not as efficient in dealing with cover art and meta-data. so needs more resources.....for now.
 
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