Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

[Taiko Audio]

re: TotalDAC

i'd love to see this but i imagine it would be a bit tricky. since Vincent's customers often have a multi-box setup (some have multiple reclockers, e.g. taiko usb => reclocker aes out => 2nd reclocker or DAC aes/ebu) i wonder

1] are the re-clockers still useful if you can go directly TACDA into the DAC
and
2] if the re-clockers would be even better with TACDA both in and out?

It would be incorporated into the reclocker I‘d imagine although due to how it‘s designed it may perform similarly over SPDIF, we‘ll see!

 

[simorag]

We're not DAC designers, the innovation is in the superior interface, we've incorporated a Rohm BD34301EKV DAC chip because we thought it sounded best of the available "off the shelf" DAC chips and added a JFET class A output stage, but that's about all we could fit on a PCIe card sized PCB. Sure it may outperform 10-20K DACs but to directly compete with a top level DAC like a Lampizator Horizon, MSB Select 2, or Totaldac D1-12 is a bit much to ask for

Wow @Taiko Audio you're a volcano! It's like new year's eve fireworks are starting in advance this year ;-)

Lots of things to digest, and I am not sure I even understand the implication of what's happening here to be honest.

So let me ask. Is it correct that the new PCIe card:
a) can be fit in the current Extreme
b) it will be powered by the Extreme internal PSU
c) it will be like a "demonstrator" of your new TACDA technology by integrating a DAC chip, so it could be connected via RCA directly to an amp
d) it will NOT have a digital output, so when - sometimes in the future, Lampizator and/or MSB will support your newly developed interface, we will need another "card" on the Extreme with digital output

As for the Router and Switch, will I be able to power them via my Uptone Audio LPS1.2?

Thanks and - again - my highest admiration to your daring innovation leadership capabilities!

 

[Steve williams]

Yeah you’d replace the USB card, or a 3 way splitter works too. The BPS would power the card directly individually.

Router we don’t know yet, there’s a substantial licensing and security support fee involved with that we are still negotiating for as our expected sales volume is magnitudes of orders lower then for say an ISP… Uncharted terrain..

FWIW this Will be the worlds first audiophile router

 

[Taiko Audio]

Wow @Taiko Audio you're a volcano! It's like new year's eve fireworks are starting in advance this year ;-)

Lots of things to digest, and I am not sure I even understand the implication of what's happening here to be honest.

So let me ask. Is it correct that the new PCIe card:
a) can be fit in the current Extreme
b) it will be powered by the Extreme internal PSU
c) it will be like a "demonstrator" of your new TACDA technology by integrating a DAC chip, so it could be connected via RCA directly to an amp
d) it will NOT have a digital output, so when - sometimes in the future, Lampizator and/or MSB will support your newly developed interface, we will need another "card" on the Extreme with digital output

As for the Router and Switch, will I be able to power them via my Uptone Audio LPS1.2?

Thanks and - again - my highest admiration to your daring innovation leadership capabilities!

a) yes
b) yes
c) yes
d) yes it does, SPDIF RCA, SPDIF BNC and Toslink, more options can be developed / added but that would require a different card.

The LPS1.2 would be excellent.

 

[jelt2359]

The guys here just told me they have a webshop preorder page ready to go live soon where both our direct customers and dealers (who will all receive instructions over e-mail) can order from. This is for the first 100 switches in Chrome which can ship on the 28th of February (possibly sooner but I’ve learned it’s good to add safety margins ). Black will be added next which by the looks of it takes about 2-3 weeks extra. Natural copper very likely similar to Black but awaiting confirmation. Bead blasted and anodised Aluminium (identical to the silver Extreme) looks like about 12 weeks later due to Aluminium lead times and the anodising process. We’re investigating if we can get the same colour finish by coating which would make it a lot faster. More information to follow!

Looking forward to it! I'll probably buy the cheapest, or the fastest, or whatever is available.

 

[simorag]

a) yes
b) yes
c) yes
d) yes it does, SPDIF RCA, SPDIF BNC and Toslink, more options can be developed / added but that would require a different card.

The LPS1.2 would be excellent.

Oh my .. so it seems that I need to follow @nenon advice and think a bit more about the timing of my DAC upgrade after all

On the other hand procrastination is a pleasure on its own, especially as I am listening right now with the current Extreme / XMDS to this and I am totally floored as it stands ... cannot imagine what the stream of upgrades ahead us will bring!

 

[cat6man]

It would be incorporated into the reclocker I‘d imagine although due to how it‘s designed it may perform similarly over SPDIF, we‘ll see!

Maybe I missed this, but what type of cable will carry this new interface?

 

[matthias]

The first product we have using this technology is actually close to release already, being a PCIe card with analogue RCA outputs, SPDIF RCA and BNC, and toslink, not that I expect anybody to be using toslink but it costs virtually nothing extra, maybe useful to hookup an A/V receiver?

Hi Emile,
will this PCIe card be available for non Extreme owners?
Thank you

Matt

 

[cat6man]

Maybe I missed this, but what type of cable will carry this new interface?

Also. Since we are replacing the Ethernet card, would you like those sent back for customers who are not going the switch route?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Maybe I missed this, but what type of cable will carry this new interface?

You didn’t miss it, undisclosed.

 

[Taiko Audio]

Hi Emile,
will this PCIe card be available for non Extreme owners?
Thank you

Matt

This one actually might, very good chance..

 

[Taiko Audio]

Also. Since we are replacing the Ethernet card, would you like those sent back for customers who are not going the switch route?

If you are referring to the old SFP network card, no.

 

[dminches]

Emile, can you repost the chrome and black versions again?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Emile, can you repost the chrome and black versions again?

I never posted a black version.

 

[Taiko Audio]

 

[dminches]

I see. Thanks!

 

[matthias]

This one actually might, very good chance..

Hi Emile,
would your PCIe DAC card work with this and an Apple computer?

Echo Express SEL (Thunderbolt to PCIe Card Expansion System) - SONNETTECH

Compact, desktop 40Gbps Thunderbolt adapter box with 1 slot. Supports low-profile PCIe cards. For Thunderbolt 4 and 3 computers.

www.sonnettech.com

Thank you again, btw great achievement, congrats!

Matt

 

[microstrip]

(...) Power conditioners and transformers can do very little about that. I do expect the top high end audio products to all move towards batteries in the next 5 years. Most of us will eventually go there sooner or later.

An interesting subject for a separate thread. I do not thing so, and would be happy to participate in such thread.

 

[simorag]

January - switch and ethernet card
March - router and to be announced soon
May - Battery Power Supply
July and August both to be announced

Sorry for the mystery part.

So, to summarize, I understand it that:
- we will be able to pre-order the switch and the ethernet card soon, with expected shipping around end of February for both
- the March "to be announced soon" is the TACDA PCIe card

Is that correct? (... and if you want to shed more light on the July and August mysteries while we are at it, feel free to ...)

 

[Taiko Audio]

So, to summarize, I understand it that:
- we will be able to pre-order the switch and the ethernet card soon, with expected shipping around end of February for both
- the March "to be announced soon" is the TACDA PCIe card

Is that correct? (... and if you want to shed more light on the July and August mysteries while we are at it, feel free to ...)

That is correct.