The platter still rides on a bearing, right? It’s just greatly reducing the weight on it I believe like most air bearing turntables?
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In the case of VYGER, there is no bearing, only air. I can’t say for David’s design but I’m sure Peter can tell us. I’m going to guess David’s table also uses no bearing ‘cause a bearing is always going to introduce ‘something’ certainly not ‘nothing’.
How do they keep the ( heavy ) platter centered ?
Airlift ok , is there not some spindle -bushing arrangement involved ?
Airlift ok , is there not some spindle -bushing arrangement involved ?
In regards to the AS-2000 Peter said in another thread that it floats on air for almost no bearing wear. So I’m assuming it is reducing that 150lb load to grams or something but it’s still on a bearing.
I never dug into this TT stuff .
So a oversized bushing of some sort to allow for a pressurized airfilm between spindle and bushing
From the Vyger website:
The ATLANTIS represents a real step forward in the history of turntable design. For the first time contact between the spindle and the bearing assembly has been completely eliminated.
They should update their marketing. Audio Tekne did this 30 years ago.
Yes in case of Vyger, the spindle is ~2 inch diameter. Air pressure less than 1 bar. Even more fun… somehow Giuseppe also incorporates vacuum hold-down.
You should try digging into speakers
There will be a magnetic centering and support so that the drop in air pressure does not destroy the sensitive bearing. As far as I know, this is the usual method.(emergency running)
I m happy with my speakers despite your critism .
After 2 - 3 years visiting shows i m even more convinced .
You can keep your horns ,... i should at least double the price of the XPE making it 100 K
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Completely wrong. The platter is supported by air only. No other contact. Just like all American sound turntables.
that sounds like what I learned from the Micro Seiki SX 8000 II. The American sound turntables are completely different.
I’m sure they are… but i am 100% ignorant of David’s approach. American vs Italian attempting to solve the same problem who would expect anything but a few similarities at best — Ford vs Ferrari! (And I am not using “Ford” as a pejorative, quite the opposite in this case.)
What is you level of familiarity with Vyger’s approach?
The air gap between the two sliding surfaces is only a few micrometers. If these are damaged by a drop in air pressure or leakage, the bearing is scrap. There must be a safety feature for emergency operation. Today there are other good materials that no longer require lubrication, e.g. S-green(c) plastic.
i’m not familiar with Vyger’s approach. But what you describe sounds like what the micro seiki is doing. The American Sound uses a different approach.
And that approach is… ? What can you tell us?
(Is there someplace this is all detailed?)
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