The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away

[Jazzjunkie]

yes..sometimes slight tonality differences can match individual setups or not. I just think everything except tonality…so dynamics, resolution, speed, control etc. is best if on maximum level, for everyone.

Howsoever the experiment with a different „complete loom“ would end, it would generate incredible click rates here in your case

 

[Steve williams]

I remain simply gob smacked with these little boxes and multi guards, and Allocator. The sound to my ears becomes so pure and so unrestricted that It is simply captivating. I must confess that the addition of Schnerzinger cable Ito my system is an intriguing thought

 

[Jazzjunkie]

I guess in your case a try, not directly buy wouldn’t be a problem. I’d get me some popcorn inbetwen

 

[Steve williams]

You get the popcorn and I’ll carry the smelling salts

 

[fbhifi]

I must confess that the addition of Schnerzinger cable Ito my system is an intriguing thought

Full Loom, baby….

 

[Zeotrope]

Hi guys, can the LED on the units be covered, eg by black electrical tape?
I’m going to experiment with keeping the units plugged in and using Power I or II. The LED light will be distracting for movie watching. I think I read somewhere that Schnerzinger does not recommend covering it, is that correct?

 

[rob]

Hi guys, can the LED on the units be covered, eg by black electrical tape?
I’m going to experiment with keeping the units plugged in and using Power I or II. The LED light will be distracting for movie watching. I think I read somewhere that Schnerzinger does not recommend covering it, is that correct?

Can't see why not. Surely nobody can claim covering an LED light changes they way these boxes sound?

 

[luca.pelliccioli]

From their website FAQ

The LEDs used at SCHNERZINGER have an additional interference elimination function against radio waves. If you cover them, their efficiency is merely reduced.

 

[Steve williams]

To coin an audiophile phrase....."everything matters"

 

[Zeotrope]

Exactly. So I experimented with keeping the MULTI Master, GRID, and EMI powered, i.e., with Power levels I and II. I had some background hiss/buzz that was still audible from the listening position during periods of ‘silence’ in a movie or a music track that I wanted to get rid of. It usually occurred on weekends at night, which makes sense as that is when the power grid is probably most taxed with TVs and internet use.

The noise is now essentially gone! I will test it more on the weekend, but last night it was transformative. It not only reduced the noise to where it’s now indiscernible from the room’s noise floor, it improved the sound and video even further.

These devices are very sensitive to where they are placed! And in my case at least the biggest impact came from the MULTI-Master, then EMI, and GRID was last (effects of Power level I or II were barely noticeable).
Power level II was also worse than I for at least one unit.

The position of the units also matters. I rotated the MULTI-Master about 45 degrees and image quality deteriorated! It was surprising, as the antenna was still basically in the same position (I rotated the unit on the antenna’s axis). This tells me that the unit is sending or receiving signals not just from the antenna. It could be from the LED (per the FAQs) and from the front or top. So how you have the unit aligned matters.
The best positioning for me seems to be:
- GRID at the front between the speakers, with the light facing out to the listening position.
- MULTI-Master close to the center, near the listening position, with its light facing the GRID
- EMI at the rear, elevated, with its light facing the GRID
- MULTI-Earth on left wall
- MULTI-Phase on right wall

So all 4 walls are covered by a device and the light of each device is facing the other device on the opposite wall.
MULTI-Master is close to center and facing the front.

There are so many possible permutations one can go crazy trying all of them, so I’ll just stop here as I am very happy with the results.

Covering the LED also does make a difference! It’s almost like a half-step - So Power I with the LED covered is like Power 0.5. There’s still a difference, but not as great. This can be beneficial, as sometimes the difference is not positive.
I also noticed a case where background noise went up but image quality improved, so I have to decide which to prioritize.

 

[Steve williams]

Exactly. So I experimented with keeping the MULTI Master, GRID, and EMI powered, i.e., with Power levels I and II. I had some background hiss/buzz that was still audible from the listening position during periods of ‘silence’ in a movie or a music track that I wanted to get rid of. It usually occurred on weekends at night, which makes sense as that is when the power grid is probably most taxed with TVs and internet use.

The noise is now essentially gone! I will test it more on the weekend, but last night it was transformative. It not only reduced the noise to where it’s now indiscernible from the room’s noise floor, it improved the sound and video even further.

These devices are very sensitive to where they are placed! And in my case at least the biggest impact came from the MULTI-Master, then EMI, and GRID was last (effects of Power level I or II were barely noticeable).
Power level II was also worse than I for at least one unit.

The position of the units also matters. I rotated the MULTI-Master about 45 degrees and image quality deteriorated! It was surprising, as the antenna was still basically in the same position (I rotated the unit on the antenna’s axis). This tells me that the unit is sending or receiving signals not just from the antenna. It could be from the LED (per the FAQs) and from the front or top. So how you have the unit aligned matters.
The best positioning for me seems to be:
- GRID at the front between the spealers, with the light

I think you said you are using 3 linear power supplies rather than the wall warts

 

[Steve williams]

I think you also said that you had best results with the Master (Multi Guards) at Zero ?

 

[Zeotrope]

I have linear supplies for everything else, but I did not get linear supplies for the Schnerzinger. I am plugging them into an outlet that is not shared with the rest of the components. It doesn’t look great in terms of wiring, but I normally listen with low light, or watch movies in the dark anyway.

 

[Zeotrope]

I think you also said that you had best results with the Master (Multi Guards) at Zero ?

I never tried Power levels I or II until last night, I initially kept Power at 0 and liked the results.
The only issue was trying to reduce the slight amount of background hiss that I could sometimes still hear. Adding power and using level I did it.

 

[Jazzjunkie]

Covering the LED also does make a difference!

That’s something I don’t understand. If the LEDs burning absorb (negative interference) energy, why should this differ, if they are covered (but still burning)? This would mean a lamp in the dark emits less energy than in the light? We probably need a physician here, but better not .

 

[Steve williams]

I never tried Power levels I or II until last night, I initially kept Power at 0 and liked the results.
The only issue was trying to reduce the slight amount of background hiss that I could sometimes still hear. Adding power and using level I did it.

Did you prefer power levels 1 or 2 better??

Are you using three LPS' instead of wall warts

 

[Zeotrope]

I am using wall warts, what was provided; but they are plugged into a different circuit than the rest of the system (as Schnerzinger says to do).

I preferred power 1 in all cases.
Remember to set the other switches with Power off, at 0, first.

 

[Zeotrope]

That’s something I don’t understand. If the LEDs burning absorb (negative interference) energy, why should this differ, if they are covered (but still burning)? This would mean a lamp in the dark emits less energy than in the light? We probably need a physician here, but better not .

It seems like it’s not just an LED. It’s emitting something from the same hole where the LED is. That’s my guess.

 

[Steve williams]

I am using wall warts, what was provided; but they are plugged into a different circuit than the rest of the system (as Schnerzinger says to do).

I preferred power 1 in all cases.
Remember to set the other switches with Power off, at 0, first.

Yes..I plug my wall wart also into a different circuit as well. They also suggest a different phase than the others

 

[Jazzjunkie]

It seems like it’s not just an LED. It’s emitting something from the same hole where the LED is. That’s my guess.

Never…
we need a physicist. Does a light bulb or LED emit less light energy when covered? This would be the only explanation.