This Corona Virus Mania is Just Too Much, We All Need to Chill!

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They are more intended to study the facts and draw lessons for the future than to "try" the principals but not always as simple as that in practice.

We will see if that’s the case over here. It’s always good to learn from past mistakes but who leads the investigations and how it is handled will tell us a lot.
 
If everyone is staying home for
2-3 weeks, the ones infected will as
a majority develop symptoms and get sick. Some will need hospitalization but most will get well and thereafter hopefully be immune. The ones in the hospitals will either get well and immune, or die.The ones at home will often end upinfecting their families but they will become well and immune to.
American and North European families are rarely living together with their elders like they do in asia or many latin countries, this makes
protecting the most vulnerable,
the elders easier.Once you have done this “cleaning” cycle, the chances of random spread falls significantly, and testing and monitoring is more useful.
 
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Dude, do you have to write in poetry every time? My brain isn't in for that all the time.
 
It took the US almost 2 months from the time we first knew about the virus to do anything.

Taiwan had the same warning we did and they have 1/6 the number of infections per capita.

You want data? Read this article and tell me if our response was timely.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...unction/?arc404=true&itid=lk_inline_manual_14
Of course you'd come back with political crap from one of the most biased fake news sources because there's nothing real backing your accusations! Go back to Fauci's & CDC's recommendations from January & February and see what their recommendations or lack of were! Also read what the very esteemed fake news WAPO you quoted said when we stopped the flights from China in January. Not to forget WHO and their valuable advice until mid February.

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It took the US almost 2 months from the time we first knew about the virus to do anything.

Taiwan had the same warning we did and they have 1/6 the number of infections per capita.

You want data? Read this article and tell me if our response was timely.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...unction/?arc404=true&itid=lk_inline_manual_14

Most Western developed nations seem to have been inadequately prepared. It is far from clear why this was so and there are probably a number of explanations.
It's some years since the UK had anything somewhat comparable, the swine flu epidemic whereas the Asian nations had had more recent experience with the Sars virus and were better prepared. It looks as if there was a collective Western complacency. To what extent that was caused by lack of information from the Chinese is possible explanation but does not seem adequate given the mounting information from mid January onwards in the media.
The speed of its spread also seems to have taken us by surprise.
Obviously important questions for the inevitable UK independent enquiry.
 
Dude, do you have to write in poetry every time? My brain isn't in for that all the time.
Is it the spacing Folsom ? I am writing on my iPhone, sorry !
 
Of course you'd come back with political crap from one of the most biased fake news sources because there's nothing real backing your accusations! Go back to Fauci's & CDC's recommendations from January & February and see what their recommendations or lack of were! Also read what the very esteemed fake news WAPO you quoted said when we stopped the flights from China in January. Not to forget WHO and their valuable advice until mid February.

david

Sounds like you didn't even bother to read one word or the article. Conversely, I did read the entire link you posted fro AEI which is a known right wing group.

I can't post actual quotes from the POTUS since that would be political. Maybe you should take some time and look them up.

You win. The US response was great.
 
Most Western developed nations seem to have been inadequately prepared. It is far from clear why this was so and there are probably a number of explanations.
It's some years since the UK had anything somewhat comparable, the swine flu epidemic whereas the Asian nations had had more recent experience with the Sars virus and were better prepared. It looks as if there was a collective Western complacency. To what extent that was caused by lack of information from the Chinese is possible explanation but does not seem adequate given the mounting information from mid January onwards in the media.
The speed of its spread also seems to have taken us by surprise.
Obviously important questions for the inevitable UK independent enquiry.

No doubt there was a lack of unpreparedness. But, how did Taiwan manage to stem the tide so well?
 
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Sounds like you didn't even bother to read one word or the article. Conversely, I did read the entire link you posted fro AEI which is a known right wing group.

I can't post actual quotes from the POTUS since that would be political. Maybe you should take some time and look them up.

You win. The US response was great.
Here we go, the true intentions behind the incessant bitching!
It's a subscription article so I can't read it but the picture is representative of what the article is all about. WAPO is well known for it's partisan stance and fake articles.

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No doubt there was a lack of unpreparedness. But, how did Taiwan manage to stem the tide so well?
Either there was a lack of preparedness, or a unpreparedness.
Not both ;)
 
No doubt there was a lack of unpreparedness. But, how did Taiwan manage to stem the tide so well?

Taiwan is the size of Indiana and has like 35 airports. The US is a lot bigger than Indiana and has over 1000 airports.
 
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Asyptomatic patients made the primary response of quarantine inefective. Denial was also a factor. Combine that withn economics and politics.
 
No doubt there was a lack of unpreparedness. But, how did Taiwan manage to stem the tide so well?
I don't know but being that much closer to China I imagine they were much better informed.
I am sure also that another important factor in the inadequacy of the Western respone has ben thesubstanial cuts since the 2008 financial crisis to public health systems. Certainly an important factor here in the UK and the CDC in the USA has seen substantial cuts to its funding in recent years.
In contrast Gemany's health system is much better funded and it has probably coped better than anywhere else as a result.
 
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Here we go, the true intentions behind the incessant bitching!
It's a subscription article so I can't read it but the picture is representative of what the article is all about. WAPO is well known for it's partisan stance and fake articles.

david

FWIW, the article is not just about the executive office response but also about the unpreparedness of the CDC and related organizations which are the fault of YEARS of government mismanagement. It also goes into the fact that China did not provide the US with virus information early on and did not accept our offer of sending CDC personnel there. It is far from a Trump-bashing article.

Honestly, I don't care what you (mistakenly) think the source of my disgust with the US response is. Believe what you want. We are supposed to have the most money of any country on earth but we were not prepared to deal with a pandemic. The issues go way beyond the current administration.
 
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I don't know but being that much closer to China I imagine they were much better informed.
I am sure also that another important factor in the inadequacy of the Western respone has ben thesubstanial cuts since the 2008 financial crisis to public health systems. Certainly an important factor here in the UK and the CDC in the USA has seen substantial cuts to its funding in recent years.
In contrast Gemany's health system is much better funded and it has probably coped better than anywhere else as a result.

This is a really well-done video about the Taiwan response.

 
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And listen to its own
agencies and scientists ;)

1/14/20 - WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus announces Chinese authorities have seen "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus."

1/21/20 - When asked "We don't have to worry about this one, right?" US Dr. Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (for 36 years) said “Well, obviously you need to take it seriously. And do the kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing, but this is not a major threat for the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.
 
Asyptomatic patients made the primary response of quarantine inefective. Denial was also a factor. Combine that withn economics and politics.

And it's the lies and false hopes. Again promoting hydroxychloroquine today without proof yet that it works. Google:

hydroxychloroquine antiviral combo
 
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