Zero Distortion: Tango Time

[Tango]

Let's keep this thread clean of pricing discussion, pls. I posted only because I want people to know what records sound good, interesting and could be a useful data point. And hopefully trigger someone to recommend some music that I could be interested in like Kodomo, Tima and G did.

So.. please.

Tang

 

[bonzo75]

Sorry tang that was just banter

 

[kodomo]

I really enjoy these recommendations and I like hearing them through your systems phone videos, gives me a clue about the pressing.You recommendations and the general attitude in this topic is towards older recordings but there are some relatively new recordings and performances that I like. You may already have them, but if you do not here is an example recommendation for you.

Nojima - Nojima plays Liszt - Reference Recordings Half Speed mastered 45rpm

 

[Mike Lavigne]

I really enjoy these recommendations and I like hearing them through your systems phone videos, gives me a clue about the pressing.You recommendations and the general attitude in this topic is towards older recordings but there are some relatively new recordings and performances that I like. You may already have them, but if you do not here is an example recommendation for you.

Nojima - Nojima plays Liszt - Reference Recordings Half Speed mastered 45rpm

sigh. sorry to say the 45 is a digitally sourced (176/24) pressing and was a disappointment to me. this recording is a long time reference, so i really was looking forward to the 45 as a step up from my 33. however; i prefer the original 33 rpm pressing, or the 176/24 file, to this 45. the CD is really good too.

and i'm a huge 45 rpm pressing fan.......but......not this time.

great music, wonderfully played, highly recommended.

my TP-019 Tape Project 15ips 1/4" is the best, but the original pressing is fairly close.

original 33 rpm pressings on Discog;

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/3392691?ev=rb

 

[tima]

Dear Tima,

Four is the masterpiece without peer.That said 1 through 5 by Szell bring the trifecta(performance,recording,mastering)together like no other.

Kindest regards,G.

Szell indeed. Thank you. Do you prefer Gilels or Fleisher?

 

[NorthStar]

When I want to dance the Tango this is the dance club cabaret thread I come to.

 

[the sound of Tao]

Thanks for the recommendations on music. I do follow and stream where possible. Virtually any classical composer with a surname starting with the letter B is usually good for me of which the B triple Bach, Beethoven and Brahms wins extra points but have now expanded my taste to include composers who have surnames that start with the letter S as well... including Shopan and Shachmaninov.

 

[Tango]

I really enjoy these recommendations and I like hearing them through your systems phone videos, gives me a clue about the pressing.You recommendations and the general attitude in this topic is towards older recordings but there are some relatively new recordings and performances that I like. You may already have them, but if you do not here is an example recommendation for you.

Nojima - Nojima plays Liszt - Reference Recordings Half Speed mastered 45rpm

I have this Nojima. But I don't remember if I have the 33 or 45. I surely hope we do not limit our musical exploration only to old recording. What sounds good sounds good regardless of period or how they were recorded. I do like some digital recordings too. It depends more on musical performance and sq of the vinyl. I will take a digital recording any day if an analog one no matter how great it is has an unbearable surface noise. The latest shipment from the General included one vinyl that was digitally restored from the old master tape. I listened to it and was stunned, ended up listening to the whole album. Any down side to it? Yes. The violin sounds super clear with all energy, rise, fall, details, texture, while still has that reminiscence of 1950's recording but it is too damn space quiet and neat which could never happened to a recording back then. If I were critical of it. I would say It did not have that "air" which to me is that last bit of what makes most realistic sounding. Do I like it? Yes I like it. It sounded captivating. Somehow it left me wonder and boosted my interest in hearing the digital rig of MikeL.

Kind regards,
Tang

 

[NorthStar]

Thanks for the recommendations on music. I do follow and stream where possible. Virtually any classical composer with a surname starting with the letter B is usually good for me of which the B triple Bach, Beethoven and Brahms wins extra points but have now expanded my taste to include composers who have surnames that start with the letter S as well... including Shopan and Shachmaninov.

... S triple: Shostakovich - Shubert - Stravinsky (Shopan? You mean Chopan? ...Chopin).
(Shachmaninov? You mean Rachmaninoff?)
* Bonus: Schumann

C triple: Chabrier - Chopin - Copland.

 

[the sound of Tao]

Bob you got the S triple perfect! ... and in the right order as well. Very cool.

The C triple is actually Chopin - Chopin - Chopin.

 

[zerostargeneral]

Dear Tang,

The remaster was a gift I am glad you like it.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[zerostargeneral]

Dear Tima,

For these performances I prefer Fleisher.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[Lagonda]

There are too many lurkers who make money off our chat. I can't blame them.

Or spend money!

 

[Lagonda]

It's like London property prices. We need a repricing so that the younger generation can get in, otherwise they will be left out forever. Let's say I will be doing a good deed

I thought Tang was the younger generation !

 

[tima]

Dear Tima,

For these performances I prefer Fleischer.

Kindest regards,G.

Thank you. I will look for his 4th.

 

[christoph]

Let's keep this thread clean of pricing discussion, pls. I posted only because I want people to know what records sound good, interesting and could be a useful data point. And hopefully trigger someone to recommend some music that I could be interested in like Kodomo, Tima and G did.

So.. please.

Tang

Please Tang continue to show good recordings and performances.
I try to find those Albums in Qobuz or Tidal and learn a lot from this

 

[christoph]

Sorry for the noob question but would the following CD box be a good start to dive more intensely into classical music?


Dear Tang, if you find this question not suitable in your thread, please tell me and I remove the posting.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Sorry for the noob question but would the following CD box be a good start to dive more intensely into classical music?

Dear Tang, if you find this question not suitable in your thread, please tell me and I remove the posting.

i'm not Tang, but own plenty of those (covers 27 'Tidal' discs, or 54 CD's if you bought the physical package) recordings analog or digitally, and you could do much worse than to start there as a 'dip your toe into classical' approach. if you already have Tidal then jump right in.

as an alternative 'one stop shop' for those not using Tidal i'd also consider the set of RCA Living Stereo digital remasters which i own most of on SACD (and own many on 33 and 45 vinyl and are 'go to' long time references) and have ripped the files now to dsd files. they can be acquired as CD's, SACD's and files. similar to the Decca's in overall quality of recording and performance. note i'm no classical music expert and my performance comments relate to what i like.

but Tidal makes it so easy with this Decca Sound collection why not do it?

 

[christoph]

i'm not Tang, but own plenty of those (covers 27 CD discs) recordings analog or digitally, and you could do much worse than to start there as a 'dip your toe into classical' approach. if you already have Tidal then jump right in.

as an alternative 'one stop shop' for those not using Tidal i'd also consider the set of RCA Living Stereo digital remasters which i own most of on SACD (and own many on 33 and 45 vinyl and are 'go to' long time references) and have ripped the files now to dsd files. they can be acquired as CD's, SACD's and files. similar to the Decca's in overall quality of recording and performance. note i'm no classical music expert and my performance comments relate to what i like.

but Tidal makes it so easy with this Decca Sound collection why not do it?

Hi Mike
Thanks for your answer.
I have Qobuz and Tidal.
So this Decca 54 CD box is a good starting point?
Or are there better, more condensed collections or even single Albums one should listen to? I mean from a sound AND performance POV.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Hi Mike
Thanks for your answer.
I have Qobuz and Tidal.
So this Decca 54 CD box is a good starting point?
Or are there better, more condensed collections or even single Albums one should listen to? I mean from a sound AND performance POV.

as i said, i'm no classical music expert beyond the fact i own tons of it and listen 70% of the time to classical. my classical tastes certainly evolved over time so my view would be that this Decca set or the RCA's i mentioned would be an excellent starting place. these are consistently outstanding recordings. and i think it's important to take your time and dwell on the music for a time. so just a sampler disc or three would not be the approach i would take. there is no hurry. if you like a particular composer that this set presents to you, then use Tidal to explore that composer from other Tidal recordings. this is what i did back in the day but by buying CD's or vinyl.