Introducing Center Stage 2M

[Drpie]

Hey, I'm not the only guy who's tried it!

I placed mine face down. You?

My mac is installed on Atomic Audio Labs Mac Mini Platform

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

My mac is installed on Atomic Audio Labs Mac Mini Platform

How much does it improve performance?

 

[Drpie]

How much does it improve performance?

I haven't used a Mac without a platform for a long time. But I came to the conclusion that it was worth the money spent. Also Mac is very comfortable on this platform))

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

I haven't used a Mac without a platform for a long time. But I came to the conclusion that it was worth the money spent. Also Mac is very comfortable on this platform))

That's good. Thank you for your reply.

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

We are very appreciative that CS2M was reviewed by Alan Sircom Editor-in-Chief of HiFi+. Alan did the reviewing honors with CS2 and was interested to see how the 2Ms did by comparison. The PDF is attached.

As a side bar, we visited Alan a few years ago when we installed the 2s, and I have to say he is one of the nicest guys you could ever imagine. Joy and I had a great time touring London with him and learned a whole lot more about Port than we ever thought possible. There is a bar called the Crusting Pipe near the Royal Opera House in Covent Garden and every once in a while the musicians drift on over after a practice session, set up and get thrillingly serious at close range. It still send chills up my spine to (quite by accident) hear some of the greatest virtuosos in London perform while Alan, Joy and I, well, got into our cups. Oh, to travel again........

 

[docknow]

Joe-

A couple questions:

1. What would be the most appropriate model for a Schiiit Yggy? CS2M 1.0 or 1.5? 3 or 4? Would 3-1.5s>4-1.0s?
2. Thoughts about the CS2M with an ARC REF6SE? I thought i saw somewhere that they were not recommended.
3. Due to constraints imposed on me by my marriage, I only get to have the system on and listen to it 4-6 hours per week at the moment (I know, I know ). It seems like the "adjustment" time for the CS2M will be very, very very long and I need my 4-6 hours/week for my sanity. Comments?

Thanks,

-jim

@joelavrencikCMS

 

[skids929]

I don't see any difference between these footers and the old Soundware Superspikes. Looks like the same design.

 

[Steve Williams]

I don't see any difference between these footers and the old Soundware Superspikes. Looks like the same design.

Not even close.

 

[skids929]

Not even close.

Care to elaborate? They look like the same concept anyway.

 

[Steve Williams]

Joe's is a patented technology that uses material physics based on the second Law of Thermodynamics. The ones you show are not even close. There is no adhesive superspike or any of that junk . It would be a simple a/b comparison for you to understand the difference
read the review from Sircom. It will help

 

[skids929]

Joe's is a patented technology that uses material physics based on the second Law of Thermodynamics. The ones you show are not even close. There is no adhesive superspike or any of that junk . It would be a simple a/b comparison for you to understand the difference
read the review from Sircom. It will help

Ok...Is it a spike or ball bearing under the moveable foot? How do I see the internal geometry or it?

 

[Steve Williams]

Ok...Is it a spike or ball bearing under the moveable foot? How do I see the internal geometry or it?

It's neither. The inly thing the 2 footers have in common is that they are both black anodized

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

Joe-

A couple questions:

1. What would be the most appropriate model for a Schiiit Yggy? CS2M 1.0 or 1.5? 3 or 4? Would 3-1.5s>4-1.0s?
2. Thoughts about the CS2M with an ARC REF6SE? I thought i saw somewhere that they were not recommended.
3. Due to constraints imposed on me by my marriage, I only get to have the system on and listen to it 4-6 hours per week at the moment (I know, I know ). It seems like the "adjustment" time for the CS2M will be very, very very long and I need my 4-6 hours/week for my sanity. Comments?

Thanks,

-jim

@joelavrencikCMS

Hi Jim

The answers to your question are:

1a) Any size foot would work. 1b) 4 is always better than 3. 1c) I don't know as this question is outside my design parameters. What I mean is, my objective is to ensure a clearly audible jump in performance as the height of the foot increases when 4 feet are employed as has been our longstanding design goal.

2) You are correct. The Ref series uses an acrylic baseplate. You can put the feet on top of an acrylic surface without any loss of performance whatsoever, however you cannot put the feet under an acrylic surface. This causes the soundstage to tip up.

3) Lots of listeners share your situation. The result would be worth the wait. Having said this, the exact amount of settling time required is system and component dependent. It is usually different for most people. Perhaps, you could consider playing the system at ultra low levels at night?

I hope this helps.....

Joe

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

I don't see any difference between these footers and the old Soundware Superspikes. Looks like the same design.

They are so dissimilar the inference borders on insulting (to me). I know you don't mean it that way..........

 

[docknow]

Hi Jim

The answers to your question are:

1a) Any size foot would work. 1b) 4 is always better than 3. 1c) I don't know as this question is outside my design parameters. What I mean is, my objective is to ensure a clearly audible jump in performance as the height of the foot increases when 4 feet are employed as has been our longstanding design goal.

2) You are correct. The Ref series uses an acrylic baseplate. You can put the feet on top of an acrylic surface without any loss of performance whatsoever, however you cannot put the feet under an acrylic surface. This causes the soundstage to tip up.

3) Lots of listeners share your situation. The result would be worth the wait. Having said this, the exact amount of settling time required is system and component dependent. It is usually different for most people. Perhaps, you could consider playing the system at ultra low levels at night?

I hope this helps.....

Joe

Joe-

Thanks for your clear answers. I am moving in a couple of months, so will hold off trying the CS2Ms till then. Will probably start with four 1.0s under my Yggy.

-jim

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

Hi Jim

The answers to your question are:

1a) Any size foot would work. 1b) 4 is always better than 3. 1c) I don't know as this question is outside my design parameters. What I mean is, my objective is to ensure a clearly audible jump in performance as the height of the foot increases when 4 feet are employed as has been our longstanding design goal.

2) You are correct. The Ref series uses an acrylic baseplate. You can put the feet on top of an acrylic surface without any loss of performance whatsoever, however you cannot put the feet under an acrylic surface. This causes the soundstage to tip up.

3) Lots of listeners share your situation. The result would be worth the wait. Having said this, the exact amount of settling time required is system and component dependent. It is usually different for most people. Perhaps, you could consider playing the system at ultra low levels at night?

I hope this helps.....

Joe

I want to correct myself!!!! I should have said Ref6 in my answer to you. I am very sorry for causing confusion........

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

Joe-

Thanks for your clear answers. I am moving in a couple of months, so will hold off trying the CS2Ms till then. Will probably start with four 1.0s under my Yggy.

-jim

That will definitely work well.

 

[aubreyBobb]

That will definitely work well.

Joe,

The M versions are not so new, but I expect to only start to move to them in the near future. This will leave me with a surfeit of the older versions. I am thinking that I might try stacking them, I.e, regular version under M version.

Any thoughts on this?

best wishes

aubrey

 

[Steve Williams]

Joe,

The M versions are not so new, but I expect to only start to move to them in the near future. This will leave me with a surfeit of the older versions. I am thinking that I might try stacking them, I.e, regular version under M version.

Any thoughts on this?

best wishes

aubrey

They aren't meant to be stacked. Not a good idea

 

[joelavrencikCMS]

Joe,

The M versions are not so new, but I expect to only start to move to them in the near future. This will leave me with a surfeit of the older versions. I am thinking that I might try stacking them, I.e, regular version under M version.

Any thoughts on this?

best wishes

aubrey

Aubrey

This is an interesting idea that raises the issues of stability and performance. Stacking would result in a serious loss of stability, imo, that would trump any performance considerations. I wouldn't do it.