Notice my test the other day, of chaining an unused brand-new GTX-D... nothing to do with losing grip. Could be the plating, could be that I had 3 defective GTX-D's; don't know.
Measuring power line capacity with the IDEAL SureTest, and the effect of Shunyata power products
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Out of curiosity, what has all these measurements accomplished? Have you changed anything to improve the sound?
Have I changed anything? Yes, all power cords and audio outlets, obviously. The measurements have confirmed to a certain degree what I have heard as a result of replacing some 15 cords over the last year or so. More than that, they separate the wheat from the chaff. This is like asking Shunyata: "why are you guys measuring..." - because there is a correlation
I would agree; but in the spirit of everything matters, maybe there is cause for alarm, and maybe some assertions or beliefs around receptacles, various cords and conditioners merit scrutiny and review.
Indeed. So why not go with Shunyata's outlet as well? https://shunyata.com/products/accessories/sr-z1-outlets/
I was looking at that outlet last night, but it’s missing that green dot - the assertion that it’s hospital grade; plus the fact they don’t use it in their own higher end products. At one point they were selling those CopperConn receptacles they do use, but were pulled off quickly. Some lucky ones here do have them.
I think the concern is misplaced: it's made for them by Hubbell which is the preeminent manufacturer of hospital grade stuff. It's intended for in-wall use vs. equipment.
Hospital grade outlets with the green dot have plus and minus attributes. The positive attribute is they have a better grip due to heavier duty contact structure with multiple wiping contact points. This is a definite plus for high current delivery. The minus for green dot hospital grade outlets is that they have a coating on the contacts that insures they can stand up to corrosive conditions, which you do not have in your home situation. The well known Porter Port outlet is just a medical grade Hubbell 8300 series outlet (better contacts) with the following differences:
1) A non magnetic ground back strap.
2) No coating on the contacts that would normally be called out for corrosive environments.
3) Outlets are CRYO treated.
I'm only using the Porter Port outlet as an example to bring up the fact that the lack of contact coating, which most green dot outlets have on them, is a plus. I'm not saying the Porter Port outlets are my suggested outlet. They are a good basic Audio upgrade outlet for those who do not want to spend big $$$ for a better sounding outlet.
Hope this helps...
Porter Port??? You mean Power Port by PS Audio? I have a couple of Hubbell HBL-8300ILR incoming the next couple of days...
Yes Porter Port outlets sold by Albert Porter of Dallas Texas. In the past he sold them on AGON, but I do not see any current listing for them on AGON now. He may have stopped selling them. Here is a link to his store, which has his phone number listed if you want to find out if he still sells them.
Products – PorterHouse Audio
porterhouseaudio.com
Yes, and the Furutech never came even close, as shown. More importantly, all outlets in the area are now performing virtually the same, save for one which consistently gives me 1kA peaks; I suspect that one has no splices; not sure.
Yes I addressed this later on. The reading on this outlet (ASCC1 and ASCC2 were exactly the same because of the lack of ground) and should be compared to the ASCC1 reading in post #3, i.e. it’s just a tad lower; however, this was the highest reading after a number of attempts, ie it was typically even lower with one of them at just 180A. I would need to redo this experiment but I just gave the meter back and the Furutech are out of the wall anyway. It is possible that my Furutech have corroded despite the plating?!?!!
All this should just raise awareness in case you suspect power losses, and that measurements matter even here. Bottom line in here, the Leviton are easily outperforming the Furutech. YMMV
Finally, as I mentioned to VLS today, with respect to power cords, nothing comes close to the shunyata either, which exhibit the smallest peak amperage drop.
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I also checked out the ASCC levels with the SureTest 61.164. I was curious what the differences might be between the non dedicated and dedicated lines in my audio room and also my with my Sablon Bocchino power cables and the Sound Application TT7 PGI.
1. Non dedicated line w/ generic cable 325 Amps
2. Romex line from sub-panel w/ gen cable 832
3. 6 awg "home run" line Main Panel w/ gen cable 850
4. 6 awg w/ Sablon King cable 985
5. TT7 Conditioner w/ Sablon King 1.1 K.Amps
All these numbers can vary each time measured, but not by more than 150 amps or so it seems.
My takeaway is that a dedicated line whether Romex or 6 awg provide a lot more available peak current, And the TT7 conditioner does not stifle the current delivery.
1. Non dedicated line w/ generic cable 325 Amps
2. Romex line from sub-panel w/ gen cable 832
3. 6 awg "home run" line Main Panel w/ gen cable 850
4. 6 awg w/ Sablon King cable 985
5. TT7 Conditioner w/ Sablon King 1.1 K.Amps
All these numbers can vary each time measured, but not by more than 150 amps or so it seems.
My takeaway is that a dedicated line whether Romex or 6 awg provide a lot more available peak current, And the TT7 conditioner does not stifle the current delivery.
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I had The 61-165 it had arch fault testing both combo gfci and both types of arch fault devices. it no longer is sold due to law suites of improper arch testing. It has some cool testing features. What it does and how it does it is a bit misleading. But it does allow a few really good tests we audio heads need. I would buy the grounding adapter it can show ground loops and ground path issues between each device.
the lower amp readings caused by higher line imp is very helpful.
a very helpful post and I thank you for posting it.
a I would guess the denAli is adding line imp as such a lower amp rating
but I’m not sure on low power draw devices if this is more important then how well it filters noise.
the lower amp readings caused by higher line imp is very helpful.
a very helpful post and I thank you for posting it.
a I would guess the denAli is adding line imp as such a lower amp rating
but I’m not sure on low power draw devices if this is more important then how well it filters noise.
BTW, I find it a bit ironic that while so much attention is (rightly) paid to the wall outlet/PC plug and contact quality, the other key connection - PC to component - is hardly ever mentioned. In my (limited?) experience, the C13/C19 connectors on even very high end components don't seem to be anything special, and the grip provided on this end by even very good PCs (incl. Shunyata) isn't great - certainly compared to the other wall outlet side. Seems like a weak link...
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