NORTH AMERICAN PUBLIC DEBUT OF TECHDAS AIR FORCE ZERO AND WILSON AUDIO MASTER CHRONOSONIC/SUBSONIC

[Vienna]

Credentials coupled with the available information (listening and technical) are enough for me.

I am not arguing that this isn’t enough for you.

 

[bonzo75]

I will be next week in Italy on a business trip and I have arranged to audition the Atlantis with KRIMON I phono

Also rotate the phono. To understand what the table does. Is there anything available for compare?

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Credentials coupled with the available information (listening and technical) are enough for me.

i would agree that we should give a degree of 'benefit of the doubt' based on the street cred of those involved.

but then we have to look at the Hollywood aspect to this particular event and sprinkle a bit of skepticism for good measure.

do we all love Wilson's? even if they are $700k (or a cool $1m with the subs?) no.

but we might. and probably would.

we just don't know.

how does one check their emotions at the door of an event like this? answer----you can't.

 

[Vienna]

Also rotate the phono. To understand what the table does. Is there anything available for compare?

the system is owned by an associate in Italy, he has a Kronos Pro with Kronos phono besides the Vyger

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Sincerely, do you have any doubt that the AF0 is far superior?

“Far” superior - yes as I don’t subscribe often to such exaggerated superlatives at this level. That is more for the hyperbole brigade ymmv.

 

[bonzo75]

i would agree that we should give a degree of 'benefit of the doubt' based on the street cred of those involved.

but then we have to look at the Hollywood aspect to this particular event and sprinkle a bit of skepticism for good measure.

do we all love Wilson's? even if they are $700k (or a cool $1m with the subs?) no.

but we might. and probably would.

we just don't know.

how does one check their emotions at the door of an event like this? answer----you can't.

Microstrip's favorite movie is the new avengers: endgame. On creds alone

 

[Al M.]

Price

Price is always a reliable indicator.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Credentials coupled with the available information (listening and technical) are enough for me.

We haven’t seen any measurements for this table yet - what am I missing sorry.

 

[bonzo75]

the system is owned by an associate in Italy, he has a Kronos Pro with Kronos phono besides the Vyger

Very interesting, what speakers and amps does he have?

 

[microstrip]

Price is always a reliable indicator.

Not always, but can be a good indicator when complemented with other indicators if we know how to analyze a product and a situation.

 

[Vienna]

Very interesting, what speakers and amps does he have?

Rockport Altair with Gryphon Mephisto monos

 

[bonzo75]

Rockport Altair with Gryphon Mephisto monos

Can you swap phonos during the listen, play the kronos phono with the Vyger and vice versa?

 

[Vienna]

Not always, but can be a good indicator when complemented with other indicators if we know how to analyze a product and a situation.

Weird!

 

[Vienna]

Can you swap phonos during the listen, play the kronos phono with the Vyger and vice versa?

Of course we will do!

 

[Al M.]

Not always, but can be a good indicator when complemented with other indicators if we know how to analyze a product and a situation.

I was joking, but you make a good point nonetheless.

 

[ddk]

i recall visiting ddk with the EMT, AS-1000 and AF1 sitting there all with the same arm (different carts).....into the same phono stage (similar to Tang).

will the AFO be closer to the AS-1000 or the AF1?

we don't yet know.

Definitely much closer to AF1 which it has a lot in common with, including platters and air suspension. As far as air floater’s engineering and sonic priorities go AF turntables & AS are very different, almost the opposite of one another and you’ll hear it.

david

 

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I think Michael Fremer is spot on not making comments about the sound in such a brief encounter in an alien room and system. Good for Michael!!

https://www.analogplanet.com/conten...-audio-salon-first-impressions-stun-listeners

 

[spiritofmusic]

Can't for the life of me work out if The Frem liked it.

 

[ALF]

...I think that you can safely say, “Mikey loves and will continue to love the Zero...”

Cheers!

 

[spiritofmusic]

Zero the Hero.