Very wise! I, too, keep multiple sources around. And I still purchase the music that I really like, be it on CD or a digital download, just to that I can be sure to never be without BTW I can highly recommend Qobuz downloads. The quality has always been great and they are usually also the most affordable option.This problem has happened to me so often over the years I’ve had Roon (I have a lifetime subscription and I am a heavy Roon user). Ultimately I decided for my sanity to not constantly upgrade Roon. These “upgrades” are often not really needed. But we live in a world ruled by software upgrades. Our phones and watches get regular software updates (if you are in the Apple ecosystem). My Tesla gets software updates each week. So far, touchwood, no update of my Tesla software has rendered the car inoperable. I do worry about that. My car now has the “Full Self Driving (beta)” update. I don’t trust it with my life, though. Prefer to drive the old fashioned way. Just like I keep my CDs and vinyl around so I can listen to music if Roon dies on me.
Where are all the female audiophiles?Tokyo International Audio Show 2022 (Japan)
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Extreme appearance...Audio Concept Stockholm, Gothenburg, Sweden
Audio Concept Stockholm presents an Omega Audio Concepts system fronted by the Taiko Audio Extreme music server at the Gothenburg HIFI-show 2022
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Christiaan, unfortunately I do not have photos to share, but there were at least 2 rooms featuring Extremes at the recent CAF (Capital Audio Fest) in Washington D.C., plus at least 1 room that I saw at Axpona a few months ago in Chicago.Bangkok A/V Show Living Sound Thailand
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Magico LLC, Siltech, Taiko Audio, Soulution, Artnovion
Nice to see the Extreme paired with the Nagra HD DAC X. It's been wonderful in my system.Tokyo International Audio Show 2022 (Japan)
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I am attending a grounding-event Dec 14th at my dealer - even more interested now after your positive feedback. I will borrow a set of units and cables to try out at home after event.
Extreme already helps reduce system's noise floor - with improved grounding, noise floor will (I hope) be reduced a bit more -> more MUSIC emerges where there previously was (non audible) noise.
Altaira Signal- and Chassis products do differ on one point - their internal filters are tuned for 50/60 Hz (Chassis) and 'higher' (think digital sources, switch-noise) for Signal - both provide isolation between connected units' ground-planes to avoid inter-component ground noise leakage.
So - segmenting Analog (->Chassis) and Digital (->Signal) is my plan.
(Currently I have all my components connected to my Everest's chassis ground in a star-topology. This setup definitely improved my system's noise floor.)
Journey continues!
The Part-time Audiophile coverage has a picture of an Extreme at CAF.Christiaan, unfortunately I do not have photos to share, but there were at least 2 rooms featuring Extremes at the recent CAF (Capital Audio Fest) in Washington D.C., plus at least 1 room that I saw at Axpona a few months ago in Chicago.
MichaelForgive the long post, but I wanted to share my experience of visiting Taiko Audio in Oldenzaal.
A little background first. My Extreme has been packed away for a year now for house renovations, so I’ve been following developments here with greater than usual interest. I hope my report here will give something back, for all the reports I've been reading (albeit with some jealousy).
It was such a pleasure to meet Emile in person as our previous contact had only been through messaging. I was also able to meet the whole Oldenzaal team and tour the factory to see how the Extreme’s come together. There were 8 in the process of production when I visited.
I was then able to spend some time in the new listening room (still a work in progress with acoustic treatment).
While I was there, I was able to hear XDMS for the first time and to hear the new switch. The system was using the new battery power supply for the Extreme, and this was in place for all my listening.
My visit coincided with the release of a new XDMS update which Emile advised was a significant upgrade over the previous iteration, the product of some six weeks of recoding. Emile said only one customer had this version of XDMS at the time of my visit on 23 November.
As I didn’t want to take up too much of Emile’s time, the listening session focused on A/B comparisons using a small number of tracks.
We started using Roon, first listening without the switch and then with the switch. I can report that the switch made a dramatic improvement in the sound. It may sound a bit clichéd, but the effect of the switch seemed very like focusing a camera lens: everything became clearer and it it was easier to discern the subtleties of the music.
Memory is a tricky thing, but at the time, the improvement in sound provided by the switch seemed to me to be significantly larger than the improvement I remember hearing after installing the new USB card and TAS.
We then changed tracks and listened using Roon with the switch and then using XDMS with the switch. Moving to XDMS improved the sound further by a significant degree. The bass in particular was clearly more extended and articulate, and overall dynamics were improved.
The final comparison we did was to listen to another track with XDMS with the switch and then without the switch. The surprising result was that listening using XDMS without the switch sounded significantly better than with the switch. In particular I felt that voices were more natural sounding and the sound was more three dimensional.
It was not just me who thought the sound was better without the switch. Emile agreed that the combination of XDMS and the switch is no longer always an improvement compared to just XDMS. He explained that before the latest XDMS upgrade, the addition of the switch improved the sound but not nearly as much as it did with Roon. He suggested that, before, when using Roon, the switch was a 'must have' while using XDMS the switch was a 'nice to have'.
Emile explained that the XDMS and switch combination was not providing the same improvement due to the focus on coding the Extreme to improve the sound of Roon while XDMS presents a different profile to the switch. Emile said he needs to do about 50 hours of coding to ensure the switch will work optimally with XDMS as it does now with Roon. I’m not technically literate so I’ll leave it to Emile to correct or clarify my reporting of this.
Since my visit I touched base with Emile and he has advised via email:
'I am pleased to be able to report that since your visit we've already adjusted the code to make the switch a significant improvement for XDMS as well, it now builds on XDMS by increasing its clarity even further and it improves dynamics and bass extension!'
It was real pleasure to visit Oldenzaal, and to hear the progress being made in improving sound quality. I now understand why many of you are raving about XDMS and the improvements in sound quality you are hearing. As someone with no technical smarts, I am awed by the improvements in sound being achieved through coding.
I am also looking forward to hearing the revised set up of the switch and XDMS to see what extra magic Emile is now delivering. A visit to the Munich High End show in May may be on the horizon!
Michael
Vertical integration is THE WAY to go.Forgive the long post, but I wanted to share my experience of visiting Taiko Audio in Oldenzaal.
A little background first. My Extreme has been packed away for a year now for house renovations, so I’ve been following developments here with greater than usual interest. I hope my report here will give something back, for all the reports I've been reading (albeit with some jealousy).
It was such a pleasure to meet Emile in person as our previous contact had only been through messaging. I was also able to meet the whole Oldenzaal team and tour the factory to see how the Extreme’s come together. There were 8 in the process of production when I visited.
I was then able to spend some time in the new listening room (still a work in progress with acoustic treatment).
While I was there, I was able to hear XDMS for the first time and to hear the new switch. The system was using the new battery power supply for the Extreme, and this was in place for all my listening.
My visit coincided with the release of a new XDMS update which Emile advised was a significant upgrade over the previous iteration, the product of some six weeks of recoding. Emile said only one customer had this version of XDMS at the time of my visit on 23 November.
As I didn’t want to take up too much of Emile’s time, the listening session focused on A/B comparisons using a small number of tracks.
We started using Roon, first listening without the switch and then with the switch. I can report that the switch made a dramatic improvement in the sound. It may sound a bit clichéd, but the effect of the switch seemed very like focusing a camera lens: everything became clearer and it it was easier to discern the subtleties of the music.
Memory is a tricky thing, but at the time, the improvement in sound provided by the switch seemed to me to be significantly larger than the improvement I remember hearing after installing the new USB card and TAS.
We then changed tracks and listened using Roon with the switch and then using XDMS with the switch. Moving to XDMS improved the sound further by a significant degree. The bass in particular was clearly more extended and articulate, and overall dynamics were improved.
The final comparison we did was to listen to another track with XDMS with the switch and then without the switch. The surprising result was that listening using XDMS without the switch sounded significantly better than with the switch. In particular I felt that voices were more natural sounding and the sound was more three dimensional.
It was not just me who thought the sound was better without the switch. Emile agreed that the combination of XDMS and the switch is no longer always an improvement compared to just XDMS. He explained that before the latest XDMS upgrade, the addition of the switch improved the sound but not nearly as much as it did with Roon. He suggested that, before, when using Roon, the switch was a 'must have' while using XDMS the switch was a 'nice to have'.
Emile explained that the XDMS and switch combination was not providing the same improvement due to the focus on coding the Extreme to improve the sound of Roon while XDMS presents a different profile to the switch. Emile said he needs to do about 50 hours of coding to ensure the switch will work optimally with XDMS as it does now with Roon. I’m not technically literate so I’ll leave it to Emile to correct or clarify my reporting of this.
Since my visit I touched base with Emile and he has advised via email:
'I am pleased to be able to report that since your visit we've already adjusted the code to make the switch a significant improvement for XDMS as well, it now builds on XDMS by increasing its clarity even further and it improves dynamics and bass extension!'
It was real pleasure to visit Oldenzaal, and to hear the progress being made in improving sound quality. I now understand why many of you are raving about XDMS and the improvements in sound quality you are hearing. As someone with no technical smarts, I am awed by the improvements in sound being achieved through coding.
I am also looking forward to hearing the revised set up of the switch and XDMS to see what extra magic Emile is now delivering. A visit to the Munich High End show in May may be on the horizon!
Michael
Soon - the game changes again...
Curious minds want to know: is the 33 lbs mostly from the chassis itself?Indeed, fresh in what, AFAIK, is the world's first Audiophile Router! :
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As most of the effort in this will actually be in the software / firmware I am less hesitant in sharing a photo months before release, we're aiming for an end of March 2023 release! It fits into the same 9*9*2" / 33 lbs chassis as the Switch, but we may lose a few pounds due to the PCB being around 20% larger. This can actually also serve as a full motherboard which can support CPUs with up to 16 cores (!). @Marcin_gps of JCAT however beat us to the punch by a month or so of announcing the existence of such a thing, however I do call dibs on first Router!
Curious minds want to know: is the 33 lbs mostly from the chassis itself?