Are you saying that active active vibration control does more than just isolation to turntables?
That was not my intention
Are you saying that active active vibration control does more than just isolation to turntables?
Very much agreed, endless pointless circular argument over what’s best isn’t often that interesting... people explaining fully and articulately why they actually prefer something can be both interesting and valuable... and while no expert yes I would never argue who is best but also prefer Van Gogh, the depth of expression, the richness of ideas, the volatility of the brushstroke for me resonates much better (more wildly and movingly painterly)... and while I can appreciate the master’s skill and that minimal but absolute control and extraordinary articulation of light in Rembrandt’s brushstroke... but still I can look away. With Van Gogh it is always just hard to look away... his expressiveness is just fascinating.Sorry but this a misleading interpretation of audiophile comparisons. IMHO it does not matter which is better - although people can't resist saying calling their preferred of "better" .What matters is why people consider it pleases them more. I do not expect people telling me if Rembrandt is better than Van Gogh, but I can appreciate reading people with expertise in such subject comparing both styles. And yes, I know I prefer Van Gogh and although I do not expect to change just by reading such comparison , nobody knows ...
Hello Mike,ok; tonight i received some longer power cords for the MSB power-bases which now allows me to use my new Adona rack which is more friendly to my passive resonance control and also allows me to move the Tripoint Elite to behind the new rack and eliminate that unsightly little table i was using for one of my power bases on the right side of my main rack. you can see the Elite now sitting behind the new rack in the last picture below.
first thing i did was to compare the new longer power cords to the old shorter one's to make sure there was no performance loss. even brand new and cold i could not hear any difference. MSB had done some testing and felt good about it, but encouraged me to check it for myself. thank you to MSB for working with me on this small but important to me thing.
Micro always scolds me for changing too many things at once, and here i'm doing it again. but i can easily hear what my new set-up is doing better than earlier tonight before the changes, just by now having everything on a similar passive approach.
you can see the new taller rack on the left. i got it taller so i have room for the 4 shelves if i decide to add another tt at some point. now looking at it i think i will not wait for another turntable, but will move the Extreme to a shelf under the top when i have someone to help guide that beast between those legs. i can tell you it was a real chore to get that over 100+ pound Extreme (with all that beautiful casework) on top of that shelf by my lonesome tonight. scared the crap out of me i was going to drop it.
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i have trouble relaxing and just letting the music come to me when something is out of place. i have to act and get that out of my mind.
Very much agreed, endless pointless circular argument over what’s best isn’t often that interesting... people explaining fully and articulately why they actually prefer something can be both interesting and valuable... and while no expert yes I would never argue who is best but also prefer Van Gogh, the depth of expression, the richness of ideas, the volatility of the brushstroke for me resonates much better (more wildly and movingly painterly)... and while I can appreciate the master’s skill and that minimal but absolute control and extraordinary articulation of light in Rembrandt’s brushstroke... but still I can look away. With Van Gogh it is always just hard to look away... his expressiveness is just fascinating.
Actually you are 100 per cent correct... originally I bracketed after Van Gogh with the words (more analogue) lol... but went in for a quick edit when I realised then that I’d painted myself into a cornerThen both you and Micro prefer vinyl to digital because in my analogy Rembrandt represented digital and Van Gogh vinyl![]()
the OCD guy i am, once i got it in my head that i wanted to move the Extreme down, i just had to do it. i listened for a while tonight, and it was sounding very fine indeed, but then i had to make it look right. i think i pulled a muscle in my forearm hefting the Extreme off the top.....but that will heal. it all just fit with good space around everything.
anyway; now i'm happy with it and can just listen and not worry about it. and the top is now clear for record albums when i'm doing that.
i have trouble relaxing and just letting the music come to me when something is out of place. i have to act and get that out of my mind.
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I think I liked it better on top next to the turntable.
It gives a better Mano a Mano presentation for us here at WBF.
Please move back to top shelf when your arm heals.![]()
Hi Mike,
Are you using JPlay/Tidal or Roon/Tidal/HQPlayer?
If you’ve lost Roon how are you finding the experience, negative or similar?
I also think it should be at the bottom on a Tana platform and the two power bases parallel to the Select.
Cheers
Blue58
This is what I don't get about the analog vs. digital debate that I've been listening to since the 80's. If you are an equipment junkie/aficianodo then it makes perfect sense to continue to discuss "which one is better/more to someone's liking" adnauseum until the "cows come home".
On the other hand if one loves music and they have both great digital (files and streaming), great vinyl and throw in great R2R, then all of these formats should provide for tantilizing listening sessions, continually receiving goose-pumps from the music they love regardless of the format that one is listening to.
I for one am MUCH more into the music and as long as a particular format has the capability to give me a STRONG emotional connection to the music and when listening and I am totally absorbed with the music I could care less what format is being used.
I honestly can say that with my streaming, file playing, R2R or vinyl each one, which probably are not at the el supreme level that is possible, but are so good that I could care less which format I am listening to as I am again totally absorbed by the musical experience that is playing.
No, it makes perfect sense to debate analog versus digital even you are not an equipment junkie/aficionado. Stereo reproduction is a challenging subject, and many of us like debating it. And the fundamnental and technical differences between digital and analog are enough to justify this long debate you address - I have read great articles on it, both by professionals, experts and amateurs.
Sound reproduction is not live music. It is a very different experience and better systems and good understanding of them, as well as personnel involvement of the listener in building the system, can result in a stronger emotional connection with music. IMHO it is why many of us come regularly to WBF. Our debates are part of it.
Sorry but I must say that I feel uneasy when other people try to tell us what audio subjects should be debated or not in this forum.
Of course, then debate away, enjoy! If you want me I'll be in the bar![]()
I am sure that after you have a few drinks you will not resist coming in the debate ...![]()
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