Zero Distortion: Tango Time

[Folsom]

Get the Maria yudina Goldberg variations from G on Melodiya. If anyone coughed when she was playing Stalin would shoot them.

I can't find what you're talking about. A lot of it is in Russian, so that might have something to do with it.

 

[bonzo75]

I can't find what you're talking about. A lot of it is in Russian, so that might have something to do with it.

Yeah difficult to find, almost impossible in good condition

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Whatever you're sending him G you must include an LP of the romantics that has Moravec's midnight sonata, his playing is so wonderfully delicate on this. Not that his Chopin and Brahms are any less ...

david

David - you mean Moonlight?

 

[NorthStar]

I am going to learn so much with these records. Love it.

Tang

You are not alone. ...I don't know zero on any of those...time to expand my Classical music knowledge ...

 

[Folsom]

Crash helmets required?

No, places you can buy any of them... They aren't all highly valuable, they're just mostly not for sale anywhere.

* I did pick one up on eBay... hopefully Tang will be able to find one, too.

 

[NorthStar]

Garage sales, thrift stores, second hand record stores?

 

[bonzo75]

No, places you can buy any of them... They aren't all highly valuable, they're just mostly not for sale anywhere.

They are valuable because (at least the ones of those that I have heard) are superlative, both sonically and groom making you melt, plus they are not available in good condition anymore. By good, on LP jargon I mean even a real EX, far less NM. One of those Bundervoet I saw on discogs in VG condition listed for a 1000.

It is not easy to get quality pressings of quality performances in listenable condition easily. Problem with vinyl, nature of the beast is that vinyl can degrade with usage, and add to that the golden era was many decades ago...

 

[Folsom]

Stop making it so depressing. I'm just saying if you make a list that is intended for buying, it would only be cordial to include some that can currently be purchased. Sure, you may not get the most perfect copies but it is what it is..

 

[ddk]

David - you mean Moonlight?

Thanks for the correction Bill very many late nights recently, Moonlight Sonata!

david

 

[bonzo75]

Stop making it so depressing. I'm just saying if you make a list that is intended for buying, it would only be cordial to include some that can currently be purchased. Sure, you may not get the most perfect copies but it is what it is..

For currently purchasable best are reissues of great performances. You can purchase cheap and new

 

[Folsom]

There aren't reissues of, well, much of anything. They don't typically sound very good either except some of the really well done ones (although some reissues are absurdly priced).

Sometimes the music is great and you just got to listen anyways, even if it's not in the best condition.

 

[Tango]

Whatever you're sending him G you must include an LP of the romantics that has Moravec's moonlight sonata, his playing is so wonderfully delicate on this. Not that his Chopin and Brahms are any less ...

david

Thank you Khun David. It is a beautiful piece. I can imagine Dr.Lecter plays this piece while prepping his dinner. I will get one.

Tang

 

[Tango]

I am listening to this Accardo Diabolus. It arrived yesterday. This is one classical that is fun exciting and put a smile on my face. Sonically it is excellent. I was working signing documents and quite a few times I unconsciously raised my eyes to look at my front wall because some sounds triggered me so. The bell rings are so real from the right behind speaker. The staging of this piece is very deep and wide. So much air and ambient. This should work in advantage to Mike's system. The recording is very transparent. (More transparent than the £500 ERC Magda Bonzo so in love with Just have to brag him to see his relentless reaction...hehe) The orchestra and brass instruments could shock listeners with sudden dynamic and grandness. This album cost about $80 but you get two vinyls. Exciting music. I have many Accardo from Fone lebel but I think this Deutsche Gramophone is the best one.



Btw, the second disc of this album has a hole too small for AS2000 spindle. This is the problem of AS2000.

Tang

 

[Folsom]

You can buy it new for $60, probably the same as your 2011.

 

[bonzo75]

I am listening to this Accardo Diabolus. It arrived yesterday. This is one classical that is fun exciting and put a smile on my face. Sonically it is excellent. I was working signing documents and quite a few times I unconsciously raised my eyes to look at my front wall because some sounds triggered me so. The bell rings are so real from the right behind speaker. The staging of this piece is very deep and wide. So much air and ambient. This should work in advantage to Mike's system. The recording is very transparent. (More transparent than the £500 ERC Magda Bonzo so in love with Just have to brag him to see his relentless reaction...hehe) The orchestra and brass instruments could shock listeners with sudden dynamic and grandness. This album cost about $80 but you get two vinyls. Exciting music. I have many Accardo from Fone lebel but I think this Deutsche Gramophone is the best one.

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Btw, the second disc of this album has a hole too small for AS2000 spindle. This is the problem of AS2000.

Tang

Lol...I noticed the edit

 

[Tango]

Let's try another piano. This one I bought twice because the first one Thai post broke my mint one. Now I have to settle for a near mint. It is Marta Deyanova playing Rach Preludes Op23 No5 G minor. It was recorded in a room with natural reverb. She also plays Op3 C sharp minor very interestingly. This one is €20. Great buy.

Tang

 

[zerostargeneral]

Lympany?

 

[tima]

Whatever you're sending him G you must include an LP of the romantics that has Moravec's moonlight sonata, his playing is so wonderfully delicate on this. Not that his Chopin and Brahms are any less ...

david

Yes, wonderful. Also Für Elise. I know his Beethoven performances through the Connoisseur Society label.



I'd love to have this in top-notch condition. Wonderful cover.

 

[Tango]

Lympany?

I haven't tried Moura G.

 

[the sound of Tao]

Dear Tang,
While clearly less of a hipster than Ked I am also in my 50’s and tho I’ve listened to a lot of classical since my teens I must admit to being fairly unconscious about it. Since I now have the best system I have ever had for listening to classical (the SET and horns) I have spent a lot more time listening to classical this year and find this system a lot easier to discern what I love about performances and what not so much.

Yet still there are great composer masters who I just don’t get even after all these years (like Haydn) so if you aren’t yet into Beethoven after a short but clearly intensive discovery into classical that’s all fine given how much you have discovered already.

Beethoven was among my very earliest piano experiences. Each week on our local public radio broadcaster Karl Haas would lead me to classical Adventures in Good Music and his syndicated radio show signature opening theme was the adagio movement from Beethoven’s piano sonata no. 8.

While I have grown to love Beethoven’s late piano sonatas still the earlier ones have also stayed as sentimental favourites.

Vladimir Horowitz was very much an early piano influence but I’d say that at Beethoven Richard Goode is even gooder and that then much more recently Paul Lewis completely challenges my notions of these piano works and is both transcendental and introspective but always while still a bit unfamiliar also absolutely great... but after some 40 years of listening this recording would be on my desert island selection for Beethoven piano... Ivan Moravec in this late 60’s recording is among my very favourite Beethoven interpreters and I find the performances of these piano sonatas genuinely extraordinary. If you aren’t swayed by Beethoven after this no biggie tho. These are just one soul’s reflections and some personal preferences. Hope you enjoy.
Best wishes
Tao

I also did make the Moravec for Moonlight and Pathétique Sonatas play as a big last ditch gamble to swing Tang across to the Big B just a few weeks back (see above) but I fear to no avail... I think it’s fair to say if even the Moravec move doesn’t move Tang to roll over to Beethoven then he’s respectfully maybe just a classical loving guy who just doesn’t happen to like Beethoven and it may be permanent... which is not so outrageous as it first sounds... I spoke to my therapist at length about it and he said it was actually all fine and that many perfectly happy people indeed don’t ever listen to Beethoven... it’s quite a liberating thing to realise.