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EMI isn’t perfect, but if it’s a good performance I won’t hesitate.

I started collecting Zigeunerweisen performances after one of your earlier postings.
Hi Folsom,

Now I am going after Rachmaninoff's Vocalise. I bought Vocalise in piano, cello, violin and opera. It is such a beautiful music. Sound best in cello and opera imo. Will let you know which pressing is worth having. They are not expensive.

Tang :)
 

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On Mr.Fremer's Analog Planet, I saw a video of SAT/Opus1 playing Fanfare for the Common Man. It sounded excellent on his video. Apart from his incomparable high level of professional recording he has over me, his video took out the variables of room play and speakers vs my homemade shaky vid with amps, speakers, cables and room in play. Listeners will not get an approximation of how his system sound but mine does. Different objectives. So I bought this record of Eiji Oue Minesota Orchestra Reference Recordings. The sound from this record is so majestically grand. The depth, the width, the ambient and musical impact are just impressive. If you don't already have this you should get one.

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This time I let you guys hear from the side and also get a feel of my room. You have to bear with my shaky hand. What is largely lacking from the video vs real is the depth of sound field. This record really plays depth in real. And Guess what. When I listen to this youtube from speakers of my iPad mini, it actually gives better sense of ambient of my room a lot better than listening from earphone. Don't know why.

 

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A wonderful short piece, Fanfare for the Common Man - I was thinking of using it in a review. Horns, timpani and what must be a large Chau gong


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I Bonzo likes to say I am a flasher.

Please don't flash at us in your videos, doubt anything to be proud of there
 

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On Mr.Fremer's Analog Planet, I saw a video of SAT/Opus1 playing Fanfare for the Common Man. It sounded excellent on his video. Apart from his incomparable high level of professional recording he has over me, his video took out the variables of room play and speakers vs my homemade shaky vid with amps, speakers, cables and room in play. Listeners will not get an approximation of how his system sound but mine does. Different objectives. So I bought this record of Eiji Oue Minesota Orchestra Reference Recordings. The sound from this record is so majestically grand. The depth, the width, the ambient and musical impact are just impressive. If you don't already have this you should get one.

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This time I let you guys hear from the side and also get a feel of my room. You have to bear with my shaky hand. What is largely lacking from the video vs real is the depth of sound field. This record really plays depth in real. And Guess what. When I listen to this youtube from speakers of my iPad mini, it actually gives better sense of ambient of my room a lot better than listening from earphone. Don't know why.


If you appreciate Reference Recordings and music from the XX century you should get the "Ebony Concerto" . Other than the delicious Stravinsky piece it includes several music pearls - I am sure you will love this recording. Some people consider that Reference Recordings are not "natural" but I always considered them highly. The feeling of rhythm and joy of the young orchestra and the quality of the soloist goes through the recording.

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On Mr.Fremer's Analog Planet, I saw a video of SAT/Opus1 playing Fanfare for the Common Man. It sounded excellent on his video. Apart from his incomparable high level of professional recording he has over me, his video took out the variables of room play and speakers vs my homemade shaky vid with amps, speakers, cables and room in play. Listeners will not get an approximation of how his system sound but mine does. Different objectives. So I bought this record of Eiji Oue Minesota Orchestra Reference Recordings. The sound from this record is so majestically grand. The depth, the width, the ambient and musical impact are just impressive. If you don't already have this you should get one.

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This time I let you guys hear from the side and also get a feel of my room. You have to bear with my shaky hand. What is largely lacking from the video vs real is the depth of sound field. This record really plays depth in real. And Guess what. When I listen to this youtube from speakers of my iPad mini, it actually gives better sense of ambient of my room a lot better than listening from earphone. Don't know why.


You should play that on Opus and techdas since you haven't posted such music videos recently. Ron and others can then get a good feel for the system.
 

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Very nice that Copland tune Tang. The mids and highs sound wonderful.
The impact from the rest of the audio spectrum is a little reserved, missing that last part of the low registers. Overall I'm impressed.
 
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Very nice that Copland tune Tang. The mids and highs sound wonderful.
The impact from the rest of the audio spectrum is a little reserved, missing that last part of the low registers. Overall I'm impressed.
You caught that. I am glad you said it. I will record it again when I successfully implemented my front load bass horns (subs) project. The designer of Cessaro is working for me on this and will come to set up to work without compromises likely in a few months. Tympani and huge drum low down authority can be improved much more in my system with subs.

Tang ;)
 

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If you appreciate Reference Recordings and music from the XX century you should get the "Ebony Concerto" . Other than the delicious Stravinsky piece it includes several music pearls - I am sure you will love this recording. Some people consider that Reference Recordings are not "natural" but I always considered them highly. The feeling of rhythm and joy of the young orchestra and the quality of the soloist goes through the recording.

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Thank you sir. I see if I can get a music sample on internet.

Tang :)
 

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Very nice that Copland tune Tang. The mids and highs sound wonderful.
The impact from the rest of the audio spectrum is a little reserved, missing that last part of the low registers. Overall I'm impressed.

This is not a comment on Tang's system or recording.

Fanfare for the Common Man is a piece that, imo, will never have its grandeur, weight and scale delivered through a phone video or small speakers. While there are a variety of orchestrations the principals are timpani, bass drum, tam-tam (gong), tuba, trombones, horns and trumpets.

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Played in a hall, the resonance is spectacular, particularly from the sharp attack of the percussion in the opening bars. I can't imagine the sheer power of the full brass ensemble coming through.

I haven't heard the RR version. If looking for an alternative, consider it on Telarc LP with Lois Lane and the Atlantic Symphony Orchestra, DG-10078. (yes ... its digital.)

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This is not a comment on Tang's system or recording.

Fanfare for the Common Man is a piece that, imo, will never have its grandeur, weight and scale delivered through a phone video or small speakers. While there are a variety of orchestrations the principals are timpani, bass drum, tam-tam (gong), tuba, trombones, horns and trumpets.

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Played in a hall, the resonance is spectacular, particularly from the sharp attack of the percussion in the opening bars. I can't imagine the sheer power of the full brass ensemble coming through.

I haven't heard the RR version. If looking for an alternative, consider it on Telarc LP with Lois Lane and the Atlantic Symphony Orchestra, DG-10078. (yes ... its digital.)

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On the RR version, the depth just goes way beyond the front wall. You can position the bass and tympani way back the hall and its bass even without my subs just resonate so much from behind that make your side walls collapse and disappear. That gong or cymbals(?) too just cut through the air and put you right there in the hall. I agree you should include this pressing for your future equipment review.

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On the RR version, the depth just goes way beyond the front wall. You can position the bass and tympani way back the hall and its bass even without my subs just resonate so much from behind that make your side walls collapse and disappear. That gong or cymbals(?) too just cut through the air and put you right there in the hall. I agree you should include this pressing for your future equipment review.

Tang
All RR are like that, very audiophile. Listen to a few of them and they become very boring. Every piece goes loud then slow quiet and then loud again. Then there's that very distracting pinpoint imaging which is very unnatural, that's their signature sound.
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You caught that. I am glad you said it. I will record it again when I successfully implemented my front load bass horns (subs) project. The designer of Cessaro is working for me on this and will come to set up to work without compromises likely in a few months. Tympani and huge drum low down authority can be improved much more in my system with subs.

Tang ;)

Hi Tang,
you do not need a sub,:), if you desire to participate to a fantastic audio experience, please come next year to Mantova where we organize an yearly event named "Trame Sonore".
200 musicians plays chamber music in historical places of Mantova.

Here after the Teatro Bibiena declared by Mozart the best theater of the world.

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Hi Tang,
you do not need a sub,:), if you desire to participate to a fantastic audio experience, please come next year to Mantova where we organize an yearly event named "Trame Sonore".
200 musicians plays chamber music in historical places of Mantova.

Here after the Teatro Bibiena declared by Mozart the best theater of the world.

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This venue is so beautiful.
 
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All RR are like that, very audiophile. Listen to a few of them and they become very boring. Every piece goes loud then slow quiet and then loud again. Then there's that very distracting pinpoint imaging which is very unnatural, that's their signature sound.
david

My preferences do no go towards spectacular music, so I do not have great experience with such type of RR recordings. But I am perfectly happy with the one I referred, as well as several others of chamber music. In adequate systems, what you call "distracting pinpoint imaging" becomes a realistic 3D with plenty of boom and space, with realistic dynamics.
If this what you call very audiophile, I take it as a compliment! :)

As always, IMHO, YMMV.
 
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