Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
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Steve williams
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If you’re an Extreme owner it’s a non issue as both Roon and TAS will be there. Using the remote app that’s soon to be released a simple button activation will turn one server off and a pushing another button will turn the other one on. I believe Emile completely understands how important Roon is for many users when it comes to metadata. Having said that my bet is Emile is going to develop metadata for the TAS that will prove to be as good or better than Roon. The beta version seems to change daily and knowing the brain power of Emile and his team as well as the fact that TAS is being driven by our input not what Roon decides to “Ruin” for us , I say give Emile and his team the chance they deserve. They hear us and are trying to develop TAS based on all the things Roon has Ruined. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Specific hardware on which a specific TAS build tuned for that hardware will deliver stellar results.
Thanks @EuroDriver
Will look forward to reading how things develop and who knows, actually hearing it one day.
Cheers,
Alan
Hi Emile,
On external music exploration I would recommend YouTube Music Premium as they do have excellent recommendations due to the long history they accumulated.
Thanks,
Anas
All roads lead to Hengelo Al, but the journey has many rewards along the way. Very much looking forward to when things are once again socially civil, and again being able to host audio sessions with fellow travelers.
Completely agree with JPowell's post. I also don't care for the embellishments though lyrics are nice. Perhaps the new app could plug into the Genius api or something.
Emile/Taiko Audio, for what it's worth, I have a lot of data engineering and software engineering resources. I'm sure your team is well equipped to take on this build out but if you need any additional help or want to bounce ideas particularly around best practices for data management etc, feel free to dm me.
I am very excited about what's being built here. I feel like every day Emile and the team takes new steps in the name of customer satisfaction which alot of uber priced gear companies can certianly take some pointers from. This is very expensive but I feel like at this point you're paying for a team driven to keep this product one of the best around in this category. Really exceptional stuff and excited to see where this goes.
Emile/Taiko Audio, for what it's worth, I have a lot of data engineering and software engineering resources. I'm sure your team is well equipped to take on this build out but if you need any additional help or want to bounce ideas particularly around best practices for data management etc, feel free to dm me.
I am very excited about what's being built here. I feel like every day Emile and the team takes new steps in the name of customer satisfaction which alot of uber priced gear companies can certianly take some pointers from. This is very expensive but I feel like at this point you're paying for a team driven to keep this product one of the best around in this category. Really exceptional stuff and excited to see where this goes.
Hi Emile,
Have you been able to reset a target timeframe for release of the extreme mini?
The road map is
- Beta tuning was locked down yesterday
-Tuning settings being coded into the build
- Beta will be installed with some testers this week
- iPhone App ready in 2-3 weeks
- after digesting beta tester feedback, pushing out a general release With iPhone App
The iPhone app is needed for faster installation Process and switching between Roon and TAS
The first install will require a TeamViewer session with each and every Extreme Owner, but there are 4 of us to do this, so it will not take too long
Hi cat6man,
The mini has been struck by Covid-19 induced parts shortages. Global demand on home entertainment electronics has been up while multiple factories have been temporarily shut down and/or working at decreased efficiency. The factory lead time of some of the mini's parts has increased to a staggering 27 weeks. We are now redesigning around different but more readily available parts. I cannot give you an ETA.
not a short term issue, but this is an apple-free environment here (android app follow-on?)
and windows-free as well (though i'll make an exception for a mini--a single specific usage)
Asking for myself, and I would presume others who may be thinking the same.
Will an iPad version follow at a later stage?
“The iPhone app is needed for faster installation Process...” of TAS on the Extreme?
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The App and the Player control interface scales nicely from iPhone to iPad
Steve williams
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As most of you are aware , I have had installed on my lap top a pre beta version of TAS and with what I heard with SQ improvement my plans was to follow the best SQ. I just found that over the past few Roon updates the sparkle to what I heard previously was gone. I was uninvolved and sessions were short. Emile gave me the privilege of giving some feedback in this prebeta version and my impression was" thumb's up, way up" It was my thought that the sound I heard from TAS was as good or better than what I heard when I got Roon and my Extreme in October not just by a small amount but by a very large margin. With the soon to be released remote app not available yet to me, Emile had to disable my Roon in order to enable TAS. In the future we will al be able to do this with the remote app. In my install, Emile discovered a few things which would not transfer across during my TAS install. For reasons beyond my pay grade Qobuz transferred perfectly but not so Tidal and there was also an issue with DSD 256 and DSD512 so that became known to Emile and his team and they were working to fix before the beta version is released
Yesterday I was exchanging messages with Emile and he stated that his team was still working day and night to get things smoothed out and it might be a few more days or even weeks. To mitigate my disappointment Emile went on to say that with the knowledge he and his team have learned in the course of the development of the TAS, he has found a way to create a major improvement to Roon which he offered to install on my system. He wanted to get my input as well as tiding me over until the final beta version of TAS is released. How could I refuse, as this, if successful, will provide what most members wanted, to wit better SQ and Roon metadata all in one.
Emile did the install last night and I only had a chance to listen mid morning today. As the saying goes "I was not prepared for this" because what I heard IMHO was as good or almost as good as Emile's TAS. I have said that the things what I consider most important are timbre, tone, dynamics, decay, ambience, all of which brings with (for me at least) the feeling of "presence", or a "you are there" feeling which is lacking if the above attributes are absent. This new version of Roon to my ears is so good that if Emile was to never develop the TAS, we the listener would be forever satiated
When I discussed what I heard with Emile he agreed that this was almost as good as TAS lacking only slightly in detail and transparency !!!!!
The even better news was that as good as Roon is now, it still lacks a bit that TAS has. TAS is only a start for Emile who values everyone's feedback and is determined to continuously deliver to his clients the very best SQ. So my bet is he will continue to make TAS better and better in every way
What i heard today was totally engaging, so much so, that time became a non issue, as this was my longest listening session in many weeksThe dynamics, timbre, decay and tone was all there. So much more detail to hear yet never bloated or colored. Roon for me was back to not only be able to use its metadata and play music without having to use TAS, which is what many Extreme users preferred. So, in summary TAS beta is a little delayed but in the interim Emile has learned from TAS development some tricks to improve Roon and if I'm not mistaken won't be affected in the future by other Roon updates (maybe Ed or Emile can correct me if necessary). Unfortunately I could not do an A/B with TAS as we will in the future but TBH what Emile delivered to my system in Roon is so good that it might be difficult for me to distinguish one from the other in blind testing
The other thing I learned is that this Roon modification made by Emile to my Extreme could be operable to non Extreme but Roon users so stay tuned
AFAIK this Roon upgrade is not only so good but stable that Emile from my understanding will make this available tomorrow to all Extreme users
As most of you are aware , I have had installed on my lap top a pre beta version of TAS and with what I heard with SQ improvement my plans was to follow the best SQ. I just found that over the past few Roon updates the sparkle to what I heard previously was gone. I was uninvolved and sessions were short. Emile gave me the privilege of giving some feedback in this prebeta version and my impression was" thumb's up, way up" It was my thought that the sound I heard from TAS was as good or better than what I heard when I got Roon and my Extreme in October not just by a small amount but by a very large margin. With the soon to be released remote app not available yet to me, Emile had to disable my Roon in order to enable TAS. In the future we will al be able to do this with the remote app. In my install, Emile discovered a few things which would not transfer across during my TAS install. For reasons beyond my pay grade Qobuz transferred perfectly but not so Tidal and there was also an issue with DSD 256 and DSD512 so that became known to Emile and his team and they were working to fix before the beta version is released
Yesterday I was exchanging messages with Emile and he stated that his team was still working day and night to get things smoothed out and it might be a few more days or even weeks. To mitigate my disappointment
Emile went on to say that with the knowledge he and his team have learned in the course of the development of the TAS, he has found a way to create a major improvement to Roon which he offered to install on my system. He wanted to get my input as well as tiding me over until the final beta version of TAS is released. How could I refuse, as this, if successful, will provide what most members wanted, to wit better SQ and Roon metadata all in one.Emile did the install last night and I only had a chance to listen mid morning today. As the saying goes "I was not prepared for this" because what I heard IMHO was as good or almost as good as Emile's TAS. I have said that the things what I consider most important are timbre, tone, dynamics, decay, ambience, all of which brings with (for me at least) the feeling of "presence", or a "you are there" feeling which is lacking if the above attributes are absent. This new version of Roon to my ears is so good that if Emile was to never develop the TAS, we the listener would be forever satiated
When I discussed what I heard with Emile he agreed that this was almost as good as TAS lacking only slightly in detail and transparency !!!!!
The even better news was that as good as Roon is now, it still lacks a bit that TAS has. TAS is only a start for Emile who values everyone's feedback and is determined to continuously deliver to his clients the very best SQ. So my bet is he will continue to make TAS better and better in every way
What i heard today was totally engaging, so much so, that time became a non issue, as this was my longest listening session in many weeksThe dynamics, timbre, decay and tone was all there. So much more detail to hear yet never bloated or colored. Roon for me was back to not only be able to use its metadata and play music without having to use TAS, which is what many Extreme users preferred. So, in summary TAS beta is a little delayed but in the interim Emile has learned from TAS development some tricks to improve Roon and if I'm not mistaken won't be affected in the future by other Roon updates (maybe Ed or Emile can correct me if necessary). Unfortunately I could not do an A/B with TAS as we will in the future but TBH what Emile delivered to my system in Roon is so good that it might be difficult for me to distinguish one from the other in blind testing
The other thing I learned is that this Roon modification made by Emile to my Extreme could be operable to non Extreme but Roon users so stay tuned
AFAIK this Roon upgrade is not only so good but stable that Emile from my understanding will make this available tomorrow to all Extreme users
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