I go back to roon, side by side with a field register inside the Extreme, there is no game, Roon is unlistenable. If I change so much material in the pas is surely because of this damn roon
Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
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Thank you for the kind wishes and all the support. I took some time to do some of the suggested tests (I’ll do more as circumstances allow). In order to make these tests easier and faster, I decided to focus only on the sibilance while listening, but will mention anything else that stood out. Below is a summary and aggregation:
Ed was kind enough to send me a DM explaining that he’s found sibilance related to (and I’m paraphrasing so forgive if I misspeak) vibrations and anti-vibration solutions.
So first I removed the Butcher Block with Gaia feet platforms from both the PSU and the Taiko switch. I placed them both directly on the wood of the rack. The overall sound of both switches was worse and the sibilance (while still reduced from first listen) was evident in the Taiko and perhaps now a little more in the SOtM.
I then put the PSU on 3 Isoacoustics Orea disks. There was some improvement in both switches, but overall SQ not as good as I heard originally and the difference in sibilance the same. Of note, in the SOtM there was a new noise, almost like a sonic rattling, that I hadn’t heard before.
I put the PSU back on the platform and the difference in sibilance was similar, but that “rattling” noise from the SOtMs was gone. The SOtMs sounded very good.
I then put 4 Orea feet under the Taiko and its sibilance was reduced. In comparing it to the SOtMs, the sibilance made the occasional appearance but didn’t sound out of character like before. I couldn’t be sure if the Taiko was doing more with the recording or there was still something going on. (If pressed I’d say the latter.) Overall,, the Taiko sounded the better of the two. Analytically, it was more precise and resolving. (I wasn’t listening for musicality.)And the leanness and edginess I mentioned previously weren’t evident during this listen.
I then swapped the Taiko’s PSU to the wall wart. There wasn’t a significant change in sibilance, but, of course, it didn’t sound as good overall. However, it sounded much better than I expected.
In summary, the sibilance issue is much improved and I’m analytically impressed with the Taiko. Based upon what I’ve just heard, I think Ed is right. The issue is in the proper isolation. While the Orea feet were a great improvement over the wood platform for the Twiko, I surmise there are better solutions out there. There are still other tests to run and I’ll do so when my health and time allow. (Im in the process of moving. The system will be broken down in two to three weeks.)
Overall, I’m really excited about the switch and it’s only going to improve with the router and distributor.
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If I want to buy the DAC cable directly from FS.com. Should I choose “Extreme” under the compatibility list?
# There are two main ideas behind Roon Arc:
A - To be able to access your music library outside your home. For instance, from your smartphone, in your car, etc.
B - Being able to listen to music offline, in a mobile context. That is, stored on a smartphone.
Roon Arc is a brilliant addition. Clearly, it's the one thing Roon was missing.
# So, in a nutshell, you can now :
- use Roon at home in a HiFi context, if I may say so.
- use Roon in a mobile context. The music being stored in your smartphone or streamed from your home Roon server.
# On a more practical side, there are now two mobile applications:
Roon Remote app:
- Serves as a Roon End Point, so you can listen to music using your smartphone, at home.
- Allows you to configure your Roon Core.
- Serves as a remote control for Roon End Points (or server like your Taiko Extreme).
Roon Arc app :
- Allows you to stream music from your Roon Server when you're away from home.
- Allows you to store music on your smartphone and listen to it offline.
I love it, and use it a lot when I work out.
Cheers,
Thomas
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Perhaps I missed it but will the DCD be available in black and if so, when?
I saw that in their on-line catalog and chuckled. The FS.com passive DAC cable I received from Taiko is labeled "Generic" or code GE. Though I have to say I am not sure what the specific differences are.
Steve Z
Perhaps the cable is "generic" it is safe to say Steve, you are not!!
I found I had to get Taiko customer service involved to complete my transactions successfully.
Steve Z
OK, I submitted the support request and it's on a 24hr. response cycle. Hope the money doesn't burn a hole in my pocket before then.
Steve Williams
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i think there was an option for pay by direct bank wire. I did that which got me in the queue and it took 2 days for the wire to hit their bank. I then got a paid invoice
The Extreme is famous, Emile. You have FS.com making your own cable for it!
Steve Z
It’s supplied in the same colour as you pick for the Router. Ships at the same time.
Unfortunately Wise, as convenient as it is otherwise, limits the amount of transfers to a bank account. As soon as a certain threshold is reached the account is blocked. It has something to do with reduced risk & liability. So we have to cycle accounts.
You can add a note to not ship in a specific window to the order and/or drop a message with instructions at support@taikoaudio.com / at the taikoaudio.com website chat / at whatsapp +31 85 301 4731
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