My opinion on the video only is that it sounded a bit jumbled up, probably due to reflections, and I preferred the older way.
Zero Distortion: Tango Time
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With other system on forum you only read and don't hear how it progresses. If the sound sucks no one let you hear it or read about it. With my system, you hear it as we go along. It takes Mike how many years to get his room where it is now. Nothing happens by chances. It sure wont take me two week to get where I want. I am just happy knowing my system can leap forward after taking the acoustic panels out. Next step is to work on a more proper room acoustic.
Hi Tang,
FWIW - imho the latest vid sounds too reflective and the bass cluttered / muddier than previous vids. Maybe it sounds better in person, but i think you’ll need something to clean up the bass and perhaps some more diffusion to assist with those reflections (if you are averse to absorption.
If you say two weeks real fast it sounds like tweaks.
Maybe more absorption behind the desk? The issue with bass is it travels and reflects everywhere because it has very long wave lengths. If you get nodes and modes from having less absorption, well, you get the idea. The thing is I'm not sure Tang hears any of what you hear, because phones are BAD at bass recording. It might just be overall better for him - and he doesn't have a lot of bass anyways without the subs those speakers usually come with.
On the Pictures track the double bass runs are a bit muddled with no front edge on the note. I would guess the mud can be partially alleviated with some traps that work principally from 50-200hz but of course it is a mere guess and a frequency response sweep would be most helpful.
The mids / highs sound too reverberant to me as though the room is too live and speaking too much of its own.
Please accept the caveats that this is phone recording so I am merely attempting to be helpful as best I can.
I meant get things done in two weeks. I am absorbing what I am hearing from playing different records for the time being. And also having two guys free themself from normal work to lift things in and out for me. The kind of shit you would do when you really want to pin down something dear Ked.
hi Tang
yes I understand your explorations done all this myself over 6 years !
i think a live room has a lot of advantages, but glass is always a challenge
but you may need to moderate the bass , the bass boost may have affected the timbral balance, but also decreased the clarity of the bass
pulling the bass out from the wall to get the clarity, versus fullness is where the art comes in
i don’t know how easy this is to adjust for you, but I would pull out till it becomes fast and a bit lean, and mark this point on the ground with some tape
i would then move back till you achieve the timbral balance you want , you need increments of 1cm and best to place a tape measure going from the lean point you have identified with marking tape
this point can be guessed at, if you walk and talk from the front wall till your voice looses the bass boost from the wall
once you have that correct , you can play with if covering areas of the glass, to diffuse the front wall, without too much attenuation, some semitransparent curtains may be all you need,
yes I understand your explorations done all this myself over 6 years !
i think a live room has a lot of advantages, but glass is always a challenge
but you may need to moderate the bass , the bass boost may have affected the timbral balance, but also decreased the clarity of the bass
pulling the bass out from the wall to get the clarity, versus fullness is where the art comes in
i don’t know how easy this is to adjust for you, but I would pull out till it becomes fast and a bit lean, and mark this point on the ground with some tape
i would then move back till you achieve the timbral balance you want , you need increments of 1cm and best to place a tape measure going from the lean point you have identified with marking tape
this point can be guessed at, if you walk and talk from the front wall till your voice looses the bass boost from the wall
once you have that correct , you can play with if covering areas of the glass, to diffuse the front wall, without too much attenuation, some semitransparent curtains may be all you need,
Listened to this marvellous recording Sunday
Dynamic range and timbral colours to test any system lovely tempi in first mvmt
listen for 7:45 for brass colours and timbres
wonderful brass chorale from 8:35
and gentle second theme from 9:15 I love the build to that chorale of brass sublime !
if your into harmony listen for the chord at 9:04 so modern
Dynamic range and timbral colours to test any system lovely tempi in first mvmt
listen for 7:45 for brass colours and timbres
wonderful brass chorale from 8:35
and gentle second theme from 9:15 I love the build to that chorale of brass sublime !
if your into harmony listen for the chord at 9:04 so modern
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Thank you awsmone. For the lovely Bruckner too.
I will take glass out of equation.
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Ah yes I have this too!-- superb Album from Colonel Klinks father
One of Romy the Cat's Favs as well
BruceD
Mahler 2 the Resurrection,Klemperer.
Bruckner 9,Schuricht.
Bruckner 8,Schuricht,
Midsummer Night's Dream,Maag.
Mozart 38,Maag
Tchaikovsky 4,Wolff.
Beethoven Eroica,Szell
Beethoven 9,Furtwangler(purist),Schuricht or Szell joint second(IMO).
Please acquire the best pressings of the above?
Kindest regards,G.
Bruckner 9,Schuricht.
Bruckner 8,Schuricht,
Midsummer Night's Dream,Maag.
Mozart 38,Maag
Tchaikovsky 4,Wolff.
Beethoven Eroica,Szell
Beethoven 9,Furtwangler(purist),Schuricht or Szell joint second(IMO).
Please acquire the best pressings of the above?
Kindest regards,G.
Only Bruckner is Bruckner.
Davis is a safe choice here; there are others.
The 4th is a beauty for sure and Sir Colin is an unsung genius.
However his 2nd,especially the finale is truly magnificent.
Kindest regards,G.
However his 2nd,especially the finale is truly magnificent.
Kindest regards,G.
To keep on a Bruckner theme
his 8th I love Zubin Mehta Version on Lp
the third movement is monumental but each movement is like a symphony on its own it is the longest symphony in the standard repertoire this goes an hour and twenty minutes
to plug Australian musicianship
the Australia world orchestra made up of symphonic performers from all the world‘s great orchecstras
any of the 4 movements are grand , watch Rattle he often doesn’t beat time they r so good together!
i pick from 39:46 but try not to weep, the string playing is wonderful
his 8th I love Zubin Mehta Version on Lp
the third movement is monumental but each movement is like a symphony on its own it is the longest symphony in the standard repertoire this goes an hour and twenty minutes
to plug Australian musicianship
the Australia world orchestra made up of symphonic performers from all the world‘s great orchecstras
any of the 4 movements are grand , watch Rattle he often doesn’t beat time they r so good together!
i pick from 39:46 but try not to weep, the string playing is wonderful
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A taste of Mehta on the 8 th, which I saw live with Berlin
i liked a comment ....”this is how Brass should sound”
i liked a comment ....”this is how Brass should sound”
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