had anyone looked at Synergistic Research Tranquilty Base as an option?
According to this pricelist, the XL (20" x 23.25") retails for only $ 2,995.
Herzan/Table Stable "Active" Isolation table.
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had anyone looked at Synergistic Research Tranquilty Base as an option?
According to this pricelist, the XL (20" x 23.25") retails for only $ 2,995.
I'm glad you are getting some value from this thread. Look at it this way, there are interconnects (1 pair) that are available in the market place that cost twice as much as a TS-140. In the grand scheme of things, this is the best $12K I have ever spent on my system. Now I want them under my amps and perhaps preamps....
I wouldn't be surprised too to see them under high-end CD/SACD players.
I fully believe in isolating and eliminating all type of internal and external vibrations when it comes to "our sound".
...Be it analog, or digital. ...And like in this case here; turntables are the perfect alibi.
I fully believe in isolating and eliminating all type of internal and external vibrations when it comes to "our sound".
...Be it analog, or digital. ...And like in this case here; turntables are the perfect alibi.
another good application for one. Much of this credit for use of this device should go to Mike. He is the one who inspired me to look into this method of isolation.
Then the first big kudos goes to Mike!
But that was still your enterprise to start this thread Christian.
But that was still your enterprise to start this thread Christian.
I checked the link, it doesn't have a specific list of its composition with technical description. Is there more to it to learn more concretely?
What I see is a nice looking platform, with a cool name, and few words here, and few more there from people having experienced it.
I also looked for reviews but found none. Perhaps I didn't search hard enough?
"This led to several new patents pending, and one of the most amazing new products to come to audio in over a decade: the worlds first Active isolation platform capable of conditioning signal while still in your stereo’s components!"
"Enigma Tuning Bullets change the sound of your system from rich and warm to open and airy"
I think it at least demonstrates that the field of stands and platforms has a lot of room left for PT Barnum mining of audiophiles and their quest for epiphanies. At least, the active isolators actually do something, albeit "leading with expectations more than results" expense euphoria surrounding them.
Man, it's a good thing you're the height of an NBA power forward. I could probably check SRA on your rig standing straight.
I've got the possibility of a demo of a Halcyonics i4. Until recently, isolation never made as much a difference in my setup as power. However with my Symposium Isis rack, things have definitely taken a step fwd. The problem on this demo is that it's going to be counterproductive placing an i4 on an already floating Isis shelf, and any wall shelf will only get installed IF i go for the i4. I have my old fixed rack moved over to house my av components. For the purpose of the i4 demo, should I move it back next to my Isis, resite the tt as before, and then proceed with the demo? I guess if the old rack + i4 + tt outperforms the Isis + tt, I can be assured that this will extend to use of wall shelf. So the decision to go ahead will be based on whether this difference is really significant to justify c$9k. It will have to, since the Isis is SO good at vibration control - with my old rack, moderate footfall caused my air bearing linear tracking arm to skip, with the Isis in place, I can literally jump up and down in front of the tt (what my girlfriend calls my dancing!), and the arm doesn't skip a beat. The only difficult issue here is that my tt/arm/cart has taken such a long time to dial in, that i fear change of environment will introduce a negative set up variable that may negatively bias the outcome of this a-b.
Could I not just plonk the i4 on my current Isis, and even though this wouldn't be perfect in the long run, still get a flavour of performance improvements?
Could I not just plonk the i4 on my current Isis, and even though this wouldn't be perfect in the long run, still get a flavour of performance improvements?
Spirit, why don't you simply try it both ways, ie on both racks. Also, consider doing an A-B-A comparison on each rack, not just A-B.
Peter, just spoken to the European distributor for Accurion. The i4/Micro 40/Silencer will NOT work in conjunction with a passive isolation device, only on a fixed, stable platform spiked to the floor. So on my Isis is out. Mike's Adona rack would be perfect. Luckily in the UK there is Northwest Analogue who make reasonably priced slate based racks with spikes that should provide the required inertness for the i4 to sit on. Personally if this works for my tt, I'll seriously consider ONE extra unit for my Emm labs CDSA. The amps/psu's/balanced transformer/earthing box, can remain on my isis rack that's already doing a remarkable job. Sources must surely take precedence. At c$9k a shelf, that's about as much as I could afford.
I heard the demo of this product at the Newport Show 10 days ago. it was used in a $500k+ system with Magico Q7's and VAC electronics. it was a 30 minute demo and I was sitting in the sweet spot. the room was square, 30' x 30', and the sound had it's attributes but also many problems. they only played digital. when they demonstrated these Synergistic Tranquility Bases you did hear an improvement but not anything earthshaking. nothing on the scale I hear with the Herzan in my system. and they were using 7 or 8 of these bases under all the electronics.
these Tranquility Bases operate more in terms of cleaning up electronic corruption, they are not really specifically designed to deal with resonance issues.....maybe they do some of that too.
if you used 7 or 8 Herzan TS units under a big-boy system you would likely levitate and become immortal.....or it would at least seem that way.
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Frank and Marc,
back in 2005 when I first tried the Halcyonics Micro 40 in my system, I used it on top of my 'passive' decoupling rack, the Grand Prix Audio Monaco. it worked great. no doubt it would have worked better on a solid grounded rack like the Adona I use now.
when Halcyonics says "it will NOT work in conjunction with passive isolation" they mean it will not be 100% optimized. but it still will do most of it's thing. when I sold my GPA Monaco racks and switched to the Adona I put around $9k in my pocket for the difference between what I sold the GPA gear for and what the Adona cost. which now equals almost the cost of my Herzan. to be fair, I did also buy some of the Wave Kinetics A10 U8 footers when I made the switch which I use under some of my gear and which also like a solid rack to be optimized.
if you have a high quality isolation/decoupling rack just sell it, and get one of the solid racks like the Adona. but you can still use the active isolation in the meantime. it will still work very well.
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Man, it's a good thing you're the height of an NBA power forward. I could probably check SRA on your rig standing straight.
My thoughts exactly. Good thing you're so tall Christian
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