What chatter? The SSID broadcast? That really has zero effect…
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What chatter? The SSID broadcast? That really has zero effect…
...and I think recent discoveries were, the noise to worry about was not the airborne WiFi, so perhaps in the case of the Taiko router design and implementation, WiFi "on" doesn't matter...which is why you guys decided late in the product dev cycle to add it to the device in the first place.
Christiaan Punter
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This is all in progress. We are expecting a new enclosure batch shortly, but we cannot currently provide an accurate estimate because 3rd party deliveries have come up short lately. Please see my previous post for a more in-depth explanation.
Indeed, activity from connected devices matter though, but without an Antenna, there are no connected devices
“traffic processing” on the Wi-Fi receiver creates less noise then on a RJ45 (wired) connection due the lower power consumption. If you can actually hear that is a different question
In order of “traffic caused” noise the ranking from lowest to highest is:
1) DAC
2) Wi-Fi
3) RJ45
4) Fiber
I was thinking about the activity of the hardware 'frantically trying to connect' when WIFI is on, yet; what apparently does not matter , does not matter ;-)
Although that’s absolutely a reality for say a full function operating system it doesn’t apply to the router’s Wi-Fi which will only broadcast its SSID, being a continuous process, continuous being key to low audibility, aka no “spread spectrum” “benefits” from for example stacking switches
Indeed, activity from connected devices matter though, but without an Antenna, there are no connected devices
“traffic processing” on the Wi-Fi receiver creates less noise then on a RJ45 (wired) connection due the lower power consumption. If you can actually hear that is a different question
In order of “traffic caused” noise the ranking from lowest to highest is:
1) DAC
2) Wi-Fi
3) RJ45
4) Fiber
I must confirm that even in my system this is 100% true. I tested it .
I am truly amazed that for the first time I dont need a cable for my remote to get a top SQ.
...but what about this "spread spectrum" concept Emile noted from stacking switches, @Kris ? You are the Switch Meister, with PFBuff still in the flow, right? I put mine back a week ago myself after a long absence. What do you think?
I did a lot of testing with Buffalo switch and it is still beneficial to use it between the home router and taiko router. It is a must to have In my system.
I think this galvanically isolates the very busy and hard working home router from clean Taiko system. Or it is reclocking with PinkFaun Ulta clock I have in Buffalo?
BUT I dont touch the Taiko router settings and Taiko Extreme settings.
I belive Emile had so much time to fine tune it To the best possible outcome that I can only mess all things . So no changing anything in Taiko products.
The only thing I can consider in the future is to turn the firewall off in Taiko router as I have it already on my home router. Not sure how to do it and if it makes sense.
In my case, Roon does not find the Core from my home Wifi or tells it to look for another Core.
Is there a way to look in the router configuration to see if it is a configuration problem?
Thanks for sharing this insight. On another forum, an individual reported that his server's sound quality kept degrading after 2-3 days, with a reboot helping to restore the sound quality. I referenced your post and that lead him to find that the ground leading to his system was defective. Addressing this seems to have resolved his problem. Seems to confirm that charge buildup was what was causing the sound quality degradation.
I've already done it and still can't find it.
By the way, it is normal that from the Taiko network I can access the internet, I thought that was blocked but in my case I surf the internet without a problem
Yes that’s normal. It’s a router, functionally the same as your home/isp/internet router. It “shields”you from “the internet”, aka people on the internet cannot just access your devices, but it allows you to browse the internet.
For the sound quality it would be better if you browsed from the home Wi-Fi or it is indifferent
Yes, but if I’m browsing the internet while listening I will not notice the impact. It’s small enough to require my full attention to the musical performance to notice. IMHO nothing to worry about.
I’m sure I haven’t tested as thoroughly as Kris, but my initial impression is that removing my PF/buffalo Router and connecting copper Lan
to Taiko Router is an improvement in my system.
But I’ll take my time and listen more before reaching a conclusion on that.
I am curious if fiber might be an improvement for me given the 70 foot length of my copper Lan from modem to Taiko router. But this would require two Sonore optical converters (expensive).
I know Taiko doesn’t see fiber as the optimal connection but other manufacturers do view fiber as the best network cabling. I wonder what accounts for the difference of opinion?
As for my comparison between wired to remote and Wi-Fi to remote, it’s too close to call at the moment. Given that, I’ll just choose not to use Wi-Fi.
