this thread has become unruly, seriously. Love that we have it, but impossible to sift through for details, and now we have all the beta testing details, again, great to see progress, but realistically it would be fantastic to have a Taiko forum, and some seperate threads for all of the great topics... I know it has been brought up many times, maybe even a roadmap thread, with links to all the subtopics. LOL. I don't know?
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The vast majority of the posts are about the playback software (XDMS and Roon) which seems appropriate given that there is nothing going on with hardware until parts are available for the ethernet card and switch. Seems appropriate to me.
What else should we be talking about here?
Yes I agree with you on this. I honestly don't know how anyone can shift through this thread as it seems to cover everything from hardware updates, software testing, Roon, any personal issue someone might be having and so on.
The vast majority as of late have been about playback software. Just seems like it would be easier to follow if the topic of the thread was more specific.
Not necessarily better, just ever so slightly different, and only so long as the tablet is on. In other words, only when browsing. On standby or off, the differences disappear.
Here are my impressions, YMMV, and please note that we're talking about very minute differences. But hey, in audio, everything matters.
- iOS sounds more fluid and more refined than the APK, and arguably slightly friendlier.
- Android APK sounds more direct and “squarer”. Can be perceived as slightly more impactful but does not offer more precision, is mostly just drier and arguably a little rougher than the iOS version.
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We are working on adding a FAQ section to the Taiko website, but with all the work going on for XDMS, this is low on the priority list. In preparation for this FAQ, I have been going through this entire thread until I reached the current section while taking notes of everything that I deemed relevant for later.
In my experience, local music playback is super robust, save for some issues with very large files (on which we are working). Currently, it's streaming content that can be problematic. But more so for some locations than others. For me in Amsterdam, Europe, streaming is pretty robust. This geo-dependent instability is also being worked on.
Sorry to say, but for now, we will stick with the buckets (which we will call Bins) to manage large libraries while more sophisticated methods are being considered/thought out in the background.
We're in the process of also adding an alphabetical index. and we found a fix for the irregularities where the first and last albums were not corresponding with the bucket's contents.
We have succesfully got streaming to work in Australia, and we expect it to work pretty much everywhere now
I suspect this issue arises when the tablet is updated prior to the server. In lieu of a proper solution, perhaps it is an idea to use a different phone or tablet that still runs 1.8 and use that to connect and update the server.
Try going into the APP Store where it should say an upgrade is waiting on you.
So far, the solution is to delete the old app on the tablet/phone and install new ones, and restarting the server, sometimes multiple times.
We've decided on "Bins".
"Section" was my preferred, also "Volume" or "Shelf" would do, I don't particularily like "Bin", but whatever.
Rather, I am genuinely curious why this is considered necessary or useful in the first place in 2022, and why only 200 albums?
Also, for us in the line for the XDMS alpha install, could you please post a screenshot of the GUI so that we can see how the Bins show up?
Bin seems to be widespread. It is also used by Avid (a post-pro non-linear video editing system)
An alphabetical index is also in the works.
200 albums is chosen as the ideal number to still be user-manageable (a constrained section that is easy to oversee and navigate) and not compromise on browsing speed. Loading the entire library to the browsing screen causes the tablet to slow down as more and more data is cached. But we are also investigating more elegant solutions to implement later.
Preliminary look of the Bins (still called Buckets in this older screenshot):
Disclaimer: the look and functionality of the bins are still being tweaked. This may not be how it ends up looking.
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Excellent. You never know when or how strange stuff will manifest.
In a earlier life, we were testing new base station software for cellular base stations and found it was impossible to set up a phone call within an annular ring at distance X from the antenna. Closer was fine, further away was fine, but at distance X the call never went through. It was eventually tracked to a specific latency that triggered a race condition in the call setup software. Nothing surprises me about software anymore.
Real time transactions are tricky, I don't want to temp providence, but I think we have it nailed
So when I make the jump to XDMS I'll have 77.5 Bins (15,500 albums) to deal with?
That seems totally unmanageable.....
That seems totally unmanageable.....
We've decided on "Bins".
Bins work. Much better than 'buckets.'
Though I was holding out hope for "Biervat" Beer and kegs are also universal.
We've decided on "Bins".
I suspect bins will go down the pan before an official release in 2023?
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