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Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème
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I think that for complete enjoyment of this recording you need a SACD compatible digital system. Unfortunately this SACD recording commonly sells for more than a MoFi UDS1!
I am still mulling over what I heard at Absolute Sounds with Ricardo, and they are coming this week (after a long time!) to calibrate the XLFs now that the Robert Kodas are finally burned in, grounded a la Entreq, etc... Will post later.
I thought I was upgrading by hitting the "upgrade" button. I guess computer audio can never be that simple... Now, I am stuck at the two windows shown -- unable to access Settings.
Should I delete the app from the iPad and do a fresh Roon download? Thanks
Thank you Ed for taking time on Sunday to setup my Extreme! I was not expecting that kind of sound quality. It was a big difference when compared to TAS. Instruments sounded much more detailed with more punchier bass. You could literally follow each instrument being played. Wow.. didn't imagine XDMS will be this good. Thank you Taiko team and Emile for all the hard work!
Christiaan Punter
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Christiaan Punter
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Have you actively installed the Legacy version 1.8? Or is this simply Roon calling the previous version that? If you haven't actively installed a legacy version then I suspect this issue arises when the tablet is updated prior to the server. In lieu of a proper solution, perhaps it is an idea to use a different phone or tablet that still runs 1.8 and use that to connect and update the server.
I've not encountered this issue yet but I know that many have fallen victim. What I hear from others who have encountered this issue, the solution is to delete the old app on the tablet/phone and install new ones, and restarting the server, sometimes multiple times.
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It has been a while since I’ve posted in WTBF but, this time I couldn’t be silent.
Sunday, early in the morning, Edward installed XDMS Alfa 2.0 in my Extreme. The scan of my library took a good amount of time but the essential process went into a breeze and flawless.
And today, after many hours of careful listening and comparing, I can say with any doubt that, in my room, with my system and through these ears, it’s a huge step up from TAS, my previous reference. Many layers were added on the holographic image so, they are denser. As an example, the stage movements of opera singers/actors are now much easier to follow.
Like with TAS, the control point app being on an Android tablet, in my room, with my system and with these ears, the presentation gives me a slightly better sense of relaxation, a bit less in my face and also a slightly wider soundstage, compared with the iPAD app. Tablets wired connected in both cases.
So, thank you very much Edward and all the Taiko Team for such a successful work!
Sunday, early in the morning, Edward installed XDMS Alfa 2.0 in my Extreme. The scan of my library took a good amount of time but the essential process went into a breeze and flawless.
And today, after many hours of careful listening and comparing, I can say with any doubt that, in my room, with my system and through these ears, it’s a huge step up from TAS, my previous reference. Many layers were added on the holographic image so, they are denser. As an example, the stage movements of opera singers/actors are now much easier to follow.
Like with TAS, the control point app being on an Android tablet, in my room, with my system and with these ears, the presentation gives me a slightly better sense of relaxation, a bit less in my face and also a slightly wider soundstage, compared with the iPAD app. Tablets wired connected in both cases.
So, thank you very much Edward and all the Taiko Team for such a successful work!
Finally, as of Sunday evening I am on the XDMS-stream (thanks @EuroDriver)!
So, XDMS Server v220908 and XDMS Client v0.0.1+2 - sonic impressions compared with TAS:
- Increased presence, i.e. more being there-feeling than I have ever experienced!
- Bass is faster, tighter
- More details present
- On some tracks I feel that upper treble is a tad higher/hotter than with TAS - on other tracks it is perfect (I think others mentioned this as well)
Simply stunning increase in SQ - and it is still early days...
Would love to see a XDMS server-update that fixes the API-issue with Qobuz so it becomes possible to stream higher resolution than 16/44.
XDMS is more responsive than TAS - time from click Play to music streaming is much shorter - great!
XDMS' UX is very stylish - it oozes quality
An issue I had with TAS was that when playing DSD256 I got a nasty noise when DAC locked onto each track - this is completely gone with XDMS.
Vertical integration is the key to success - with XDMS (and the previously released USB driver) team Taiko has full control.
I look forward to the continued journey to SQ nirvana!
So, XDMS Server v220908 and XDMS Client v0.0.1+2 - sonic impressions compared with TAS:
- Increased presence, i.e. more being there-feeling than I have ever experienced!
- Bass is faster, tighter
- More details present
- On some tracks I feel that upper treble is a tad higher/hotter than with TAS - on other tracks it is perfect (I think others mentioned this as well)
Simply stunning increase in SQ - and it is still early days...
Would love to see a XDMS server-update that fixes the API-issue with Qobuz so it becomes possible to stream higher resolution than 16/44.
XDMS is more responsive than TAS - time from click Play to music streaming is much shorter - great!
XDMS' UX is very stylish - it oozes quality
An issue I had with TAS was that when playing DSD256 I got a nasty noise when DAC locked onto each track - this is completely gone with XDMS.
Vertical integration is the key to success - with XDMS (and the previously released USB driver) team Taiko has full control.
I look forward to the continued journey to SQ nirvana!
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steve williams
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This was the very first thing I noticed when I first got XDMS
I was talking to Edward yesterday about killing all of the bugs which will come with time. Edward and also Christiaan have recent ly asked that all bugs be reported through Test Flight rather than here on the Taiko thread as it is becoming cluttered with posts about bugs. Ed says the best way is not to post on this thread but rather report the bugs through Test Flight where they can better act on members' findings
For me, this sounds like a potentially frustrating rabbit hole excursion that I don't have the time to root around in.
I think I'll just keep using TAS and wait for the eventual XDMS beta.
It is surprising Roon posts a big Update button in front of users only to throw them into a dead in. I don't recall a warning from Roon about the proper sequence of tablet/server upgrade
I kept tapping the BIG UPDATE BUTTON TOO without success until I went into the APP store saw and saw UPDATE IS WAITING. I spoke with Christiaan he also thinks it may be the sequence. That's the best guess I have, just attempting to help. I was stuck as you are (or was) but not for very long...
I suggest reaching out to the Roon team. I would think the easiest thing to do is load 1.8 on your phone, connect to Roon on your Extreme, go into Roon > Settings > About and update the Core (Extreme) to 2.0. Or once you put 1.8 back on your phone/tablet you could just stay at 1.8.
Update on Alpha slow roll out
First a shout out to Extreme Users in Australia, Hungary and Italy who have been patiently helping us debug. There has been a bug discovered in these locations which does not happen in USA or Canada.
After some intensive investigations Wilson has identified the problem and we are now testing fixes. Please understand that this is a top priority, and consequently we are only slowly adding Alpha testers.
A early Beta release is our goal, but we have to expect the unexpected
First a shout out to Extreme Users in Australia, Hungary and Italy who have been patiently helping us debug. There has been a bug discovered in these locations which does not happen in USA or Canada.
After some intensive investigations Wilson has identified the problem and we are now testing fixes. Please understand that this is a top priority, and consequently we are only slowly adding Alpha testers.
A early Beta release is our goal, but we have to expect the unexpected
