Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

[nonesup]

It could accept the service provider fiber directly. Subsequently you could create a separated audio and rest-of-home network.

Obviously it could also be placed behind the fiber modem.

Does the Taiko router also work as a modem???

 

[Taiko Audio]

Does the Taiko router also work as a modem???

Depending on your definition of modem, yes, and of course your service provider needs to support using your own.

 

[dminches]

Depending on your definition of modem, yes, and of course your service provider needs to support using your own.

Are you going to do some testing with the major ISPs in each region to see which work with your router at a replacement or is that our own responsibility?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Are you going to do some testing with the major ISPs in each region to see which work with your router at a replacement or is that our own responsibility?

I don’t think that’s realistically executable. We will have to see how to approach that.

It’s not an uncommon practice, see here for example https://www.gadgetreview.com/how-to-replace-isp-router-with-your-own (first hit on googling “how to replace your internet router”)

 

[dminches]

I don’t think that’s realistically executable. We will have to see how to approach that.

It’s not an uncommon practice, see here for example https://www.gadgetreview.com/how-to-replace-isp-router-with-your-own (first hit on googling “how to replace your internet router”)

I was actually thinking you could recruit people from multiple locations to do testing and report back.

 

[Taiko Audio]

I was actually thinking you could recruit people from multiple locations to do testing and report back.

I see this evolving similarly to the USB driver project where we started out by adding generic support for different DACs which then evolved into individual DAC optimizations. We do have backup from a company specialising in router design for this, they will also provide support and updates.

ISPs don’t tend design their own “modem”* but purchase an off the shelf device in quantity which can be preconfigured with some settings and be assigned an IP address based on it’s MAC address. You can either clone this or call your ISP to ask them what to do to use your own device.

Some audiophiles already do this using an Ubiquity edgerouter, which unfortunately is a horrible sounding router, an Ubiquity dream machine sounds much better, which is actually sortoff what put us on this path of designing our own..

*“modem” is actually an incorrect term in this case as a modem is a device transmitting data over an analogue phone line which is not what we’re using anymore nowadays.

 

[Rhapsody]

I was actually thinking you could recruit people from multiple locations to do testing and report back.

In the US with Verizon, you MUST use their ONT box and then their router to connect the incoming fiber. If you don't do this your tv channels will not work properly. You can get internet if that's all you use, but most people have TV coming in as well. I have investigated this issue in depth with Verizon in the past. No way around it.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

transmitting data over an analogue phone line which is not what we’re using anymore nowadays.

...oh, but don't you miss that beautiful sound? And connecting to Telnet for audio Usegroups.

 

[Taiko Audio]

...oh, but don't you miss that beautiful sound? And connecting to Telnet for audio Usegroups.

Does bring back memories, when something resembling music you could download had the .mod extension.

 

[dminches]

In the US with Verizon, you MUST use their ONT box and then their router to connect the incoming fiber. If you don't do this your tv channels will not work properly. You can get internet if that's all you use, but most people have TV coming in as well. I have investigated this issue in depth with Verizon in the past. No way around it.

I have Fios in NJ and do not use their router because I am internet only, as you are saying.

 

[ACHiPo]

1943 Sylvania VT-231GT and Brimar CV1988

Haven't tried the Brimar (heard great things about them), but the Sylvania VT-231s are fantastic in my AtmaSphere amps.

 

[cat6man]

In the US with Verizon, you MUST use their ONT box and then their router to connect the incoming fiber. If you don't do this your tv channels will not work properly. You can get internet if that's all you use, but most people have TV coming in as well. I have investigated this issue in depth with Verizon in the past. No way around it.

Not exactly.
I have both Ethernet cable and coax coming out from my ONT. The coax goes to my tv tuners and the Ethernet goes to a ubiquity router which replaced the garbage FiOS router. The only thing you lose is video on demand (which I never use)

Edit: I'm also in NJ

 

[MOTU]

I have currently changed my fiber modem to a higher grade one with a lpsu, sq uplift was very big, on par with a switch upgrade. However, it entailed changing the mac address of the new modem to the same as the operator supplied one. Is it possible to do that with the Taiko router?

 

[cat6man]

I have currently changed my fiber modem to a higher grade one with a lpsu, sq uplift was very big, on par with a switch upgrade. However, it entailed changing the mac address of the new modem to the same as the operator supplied one. Is it possible to do that with the Taiko router?

Cloning the Mac address was not necessary here, but might be with some isp. In any case, it is probably not something the technically cautious would want to get involved with. Plus, Verizon will not troubleshoot for you if you are not on their router.

 

[MOTU]

Agreed, not for the faint of heart, but definitely something I would pursue if at all possible. I think the benefit would be enormous.

 

[rexip]

Thanks Ed for installing the latest XDMS server and app. It is another level and mind-blowing. Can't wait to see further SQ improvement with the coming updates.

 

[Taiko Audio]

I have currently changed my fiber modem to a higher grade one with a lpsu, sq uplift was very big, on par with a switch upgrade. However, it entailed changing the mac address of the new modem to the same as the operator supplied one. Is it possible to do that with the Taiko router?

Yes. We can do a lot as we are 100% in charge of the code, only bound by safety (security) limits.

 

[Christiaan Punter]

It's an Obi satellite with a LPS . The satellite has 3 ethernet ports. I take an ethernet cable out from the satellite to the Extreme and I have never had an issue. I do believe Emile however that his pending updates will take the network to a whole new level so I'm all in thanks to Emile

Hi Steve, do you mean this one?

Netgear Orbi AX6000 WiFi-satellite (RBS850)

 

[nonesup]

Depending on your definition of modem, yes, and of course your service provider needs to support using your own.

Well, since my ISP's Router also works for TV services, I guess I'll have to place the Taiko Router after my ISP's Router. In this case, would we make a LAN to LAN connection with the Taiko Router's DHCP services disabled or a LAN to WAN connection creating a second network for audio only?

 

[Christiaan Punter]

...perhaps this may be of interest reAC cables:

What's DAC Cable And Why Choose It Over Fiber Transceiver?

This article make an introduction of the DAC cable, its types, why choose it over optical transceivers and where to use it

www.fiber-optic-solutions.com

Thanks! I actually needed to read up on this