Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

[Rhapsody]

Agreed. Now that the update is optimized and ready for the masses, the last iteration from today is truly magical. Fasten the seat belts.

 

[Kawero]

Usb 6: harmonic richness is unbelievable

 

[Rhapsody]

Usb 6: harmonic richness is unbelievable

Yes, but it depends on what dac one will be using which will determine which usb they will be using. I do not believe it's just usb6, it's the last iteration and your dac happens to be matched with usb6.

 

[Taiko Audio]

Last minute I managed to boost TAS sound quality to be more competitive again. I’ll leave comparisons for those who feel like it.

We have decided to make Roon the default on system startup. To use TAS you will have to launch the TAS remote and switch to TAS.

As we have integrated a part of TAS into the new USB driver, being of obvious mayor benefit to Roon, you will have to set TAS buffers to Auto or it will not play. See the attached screenshot.

 

[Rhapsody]

Last minute I managed to boost TAS sound quality to be more competitive again. I’ll leave comparisons for those who feel like it.

We have decided to make Roon the default on system startup. To use TAS you will have to launch the TAS remote and switch to TAS.

As we have integrated a part of TAS into the new USB driver, being of obvious mayor benefit to Roon, you will have to set TAS buffers to Auto or it will not play. See the attached screenshot.

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OH GEEEZZZZZ GO TO BED I'M SO HAPPY WITH THE ROON INTERFACE AND THE SOUND. I don't even want to hear if TAS sounds better. It doesn't matter:0)

 

[Taiko Audio]

On another note, the 60 or so people who send me teamviewer codes already, it’s very likely the passwords will have expired tomorrow morning.

Signing off here, see you all tomorrow!

 

[Taiko Audio]

Usb 6: harmonic richness is unbelievable

USB6 will replace USB3. There are now 4 profiles, USB1-4.

Updated list, quite sure we’ll have that complete in the next 1-2 days.




-Analog Domain DAC1 - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Anthem STR - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-APL DSD-MR - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-APL DSD-SR - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aries Cerat Helene - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aries Cerat Kassandra - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aqua Formula xHD V2.0 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aqua La Scala - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Ayre QX-5 with USB2 upgrade - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-B&O Beolab 50 - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 32-bit

-Boulder 2120

-Bricasti MDxx - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Brinkmann Nyquist - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-CH Precision - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Bartok - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Rossini - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Rossini Player - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Vivaldi - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Vivaldi Up-sampler - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Vivaldi One - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Denafrips Gaia

-Denafrips Terminator Plus

-Devialet Expert Pro

-EMM Labs DA2 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-EMM Labs DAC2V2 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-EMM Labs DAC2X - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Esoteric Grandioso D1X (PCM only)

-Esoteric K-01X (PCM only)

-Esoteric K-01XD (PCM only)

-Esoteric K-03 (PCM only)

-Exogal Comet - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Goldmund Mimesis 20H Nextgen - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Gustard X26 Pro - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Holo Audio May - USBx - Roon 24-bit

-Ideon Absolute

-iFi Pro iDSD

-Lampizator - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-LH Davinci MKII - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-LH Virtuoso - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Luxman D10X - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Matrix Audio X-SPDIF 2 - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24 bit

-Meitner MA-3 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Meitner XDS1 V3 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-MSB Pro USB - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-MSB V / Quad - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Mutec MC-3+ - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Nagra HD-X - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Nagra Tube Dac - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Pilium Elektra - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Resolution Audio Cantata 3.0

-Sennheiser HE-1 - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Singxer SU-6 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-SoTM dx-usbHD - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Soulution 330 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Soulution 760 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-T+A MP 2500R - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-T+A SD(V)3100 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Thrax Maximinus - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Topping NX4DSD - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Totaldac - USB1 - Roon 24-bit

-Trinity 1st gen model - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Trinity Reference

-Vinnie Rossi L2 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Vitus - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Wadax Reference - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Weiss DAC-501

-Ypsilon 1000 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

 

[Nils]

I have just finished enjoying a listening session of Bill Evans Trio ?–https://www.highdeftapetransfers.ca...llys-manne-hole-hollywood-california-pure-dsd

Up until yesterday - this dsd256 album, locally stored in Extreme (or my other dsd256 The great reunion by Duke Ellington och Louis Armstrong) did not sound very exciting at all.

Then came a rather intense and analytical set of sessions orchestrated by Taiko...

These are the results in my system:



The general OS upgrade included the setting 8192.

My dsd256 albums started to sound good at 256 - with larger buffer size they were not enjoyable.

Via a few iterations, maximum joy was found at 128 and 192 - I could not tell them apart - both settings -> stellar sq.

With the smallest buffer (64) the soundstage fell apart and sq went south.

The Bill Evans album is so so nice! And the recording is stellar - with the optimal dsd-setting for your dac you are up for a very nice experience!

 

[kennyb123]

Last minute I managed to boost TAS sound quality to be more competitive again. I’ll leave comparisons for those who feel like it.

I respect your decision to not divulge how you were able to boost Roon’s sound quality. What has baffled me was that TAS didn’t scale to the same level that Roon did. Except for the inclusion of LMS, TAS was optimized for great sound quality. Roon was not. Anything you might be able to divulge about what was either holding back TAS or what it was about Roon that better positioned it for a bigger gain? And like I said, I would absolutely respect you declining to answer.

 

[rocco1113]

@Emile, @Taiko Audio wondering if some of this marvelous OS upgrade can be applied to EVO.

Look forward to your advice. Cheers.

 

[oldmustang]

Gorgeous, beautiful, rich, in-the-room — wow! This latest version of the OS + USB driver is sooo good.

Steve

 

[oldmustang]

I just had to post one more. . .



Steve Z

 

[oldmustang]

Last one, I promise. This is the best I have *ever* heard my music sound! Emile and company — thank you very very much!

Steve Z

 

[cmarin]

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Last one, I promise. This is the best I have *ever* heard my music sound! Emile and company — thank you very very much!

Steve Z

Steve,

That is an amazing sounding piece. Can’t wait to hear it after my update.

You hit the nail on the head: “DFA is in the room”: Not just near field listening.. but the whole room disappears and is transported to the recording venue!

 

[Taiko Audio]

Good morning,

When the update has been applied you can load the appropriate USB profile, for which profile to use see the table at the end of this post, those are located on your desktop and you can execute them by right-clicking and selecting "Run with Powershell". The Extreme will then reboot and the profile will be active.



Next you have to select the appropriate output bit rate in Roon according to the same table.











-Analog Domain DAC1 - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Anthem STR - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-APL DSD-MR

-APL DSD-SR

-Aries Cerat Helene - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aries Cerat Kassandra - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aqua Formula xHD V2.0 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Aqua La Scala - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Ayre QX-5 with USB2 upgrade - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-B&O Beolab 50 - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 32-bit

-Boulder 2120

-Bricasti MDxx - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Brinkmann Nyquist - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-CH Precision - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Bartok - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Rossini - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Rossini Player - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Vivaldi - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Vivaldi Up-sampler - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-DCS Vivaldi One - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Denafrips Gaia

-Denafrips Terminator Plus

-Devialet Expert Pro

-EMM Labs DA2 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-EMM Labs DAC2V2 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-EMM Labs DAC2X - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Esoteric Grandioso D1X (PCM only)

-Esoteric K-01X (PCM only)

-Esoteric K-01XD (PCM only)

-Esoteric K-03 (PCM only)

-Exogal Comet - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Goldmund Mimesis 20H Nextgen - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Gustard X26 Pro - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Holo Audio May - USBx - Roon 24-bit

-Ideon Absolute

-iFi Pro iDSD

-Lampizator - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-LH Davinci MKII - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-LH Virtuoso - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Luxman D10X - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Matrix Audio X-SPDIF 2 - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24 bit

-Meitner MA-3 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Meitner XDS1 V3

-MSB Pro USB - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-MSB V / Quad - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Mutec MC-3+ - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Nagra HD-X - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Nagra Tube Dac - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Pilium Elektra

-Resolution Audio Cantata 3.0

-Sennheiser HE-1 - USB2 - Roon 32-bit

-Singxer SU-6 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-SoTM dx-usbHD - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Soulution 330 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Soulution 760 - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-T+A MP 2500R

-T+A SD(V)3100

-Thrax Maximinus -USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Topping NX4DSD -USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Totaldac - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Trinity 1st gen model - USB1 or USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Trinity Reference

-Vinnie Rossi L2 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Vitus - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

-Wadax Reference - USB3 - Roon 24-bit

-Weiss DAC-501

-Ypsilon 1000 - USB4 - Roon 32-bit

 

[Taiko Audio]

We have decided to make Roon the default on system startup. To use TAS you will have to launch the TAS remote and switch to TAS.

As we have integrated a part of TAS into the new USB driver, being of obvious mayor benefit to Roon, you will have to set TAS buffers to Auto or it will not play. See the attached screenshot.

 

[Taiko Audio]

@Emile, @Taiko Audio wondering if some of this marvelous OS upgrade can be applied to EVO.

Look forward to your advice. Cheers.

Hi @rocco1113 ,

Unfortunately no, it needs 2 CPUs and those need to be Intel Xeon Scalable. We will attempt to port XDMS to the EVO, but the USB driver will not work, despite the EVO having a pretty fast overclocked Intel core i7-770K CPU, it will still drop out.

You can upgrade to an Extreme with a 100% refund of your EVO purchasing price.

 

[Taiko Audio]

I respect your decision to not divulge how you were able to boost Roon’s sound quality. What has baffled me was that TAS didn’t scale to the same level that Roon did. Except for the inclusion of LMS, TAS was optimized for great sound quality. Roon was not. Anything you might be able to divulge about what was either holding back TAS or what it was about Roon that better positioned it for a bigger gain? And like I said, I would absolutely respect you declining to answer.

LMS is holding TAS back.

 

[Taiko Audio]

First hour report, 20 extremes updated, 3 minutes on average, not bad at all, 5 minute coffee break!

 

[MusicFellow]

First hour report, 20 extremes updated, 3 minutes on average, not bad at all, 5 minute coffee break!

Go Emile Go! I just had the picture of the magnificent header by Robin van Persie against the Spanish Team in the 2014 World Cup come to mind. Where Robin did one in the game of 90 minutes (ok actually two), Emile is doing 20 in an hour!!